3.0L or M3 engine?

all else being equal, changing to slotted discs actually REDUCES your braking torque. thats because the friction surface area has been lessened

Shawn,

How about slotted disc? Does it increase or decrease braking torque??
Looking at the Tarox G88 slotted disc...... :thinking:

Cheers!
8)
 
dear welbo,

what the fuck are you talking about? i'm already talking about slotted discs.

yours sincerely,
racebred.
 
Me bad...........I must be tired as I thought your posting is about Disc with holes type .......
:|

Cheers!
 
anyway, it's the same principle. holes reduce surface area. less area for friction, less braking power.
 
No need to do engine swap lah, too much hassle especially for the M3 engine swap, 3.0l is still doable... just do bolt-on bolt-off mods... eg. SC, turbo... can take out if you don't want it later...
 
Turbo??.. can the engine actually take it?... pretty sure even if it cld. only at a low boost right?>. i think turbo is much cheaper than getting a sc right?. :thinking:
 
shaaz said:
Turbo??.. can the engine actually take it?... pretty sure even if it cld. only at a low boost right?>. i think turbo is much cheaper than getting a sc right?. :thinking:

Engine can take turbo. But not running very high boost like the Jap cars, but you be surprised at how much it can be boosted. Turbo kits usually cost around the sames as SC kits.
 
is it??... i always thought TC was a few thousands cheaper. Anyways.. that means you've gotta change ur trannny too?.. stock 320i wun be able to take the stress right?. :errr:
 
shaaz said:
is it??... i always thought TC was a few thousands cheaper. Anyways.. that means you've gotta change ur trannny too?.. stock 320i wun be able to take the stress right?. :errr:

If you have a auto tranny, you can forget about TC your car. Even if you're running on relatively low boost for TURBO, your car will lag when you floor it and your tranny will go to limp mode. Guess the sudden gush of torque is too much for the tranny as compared to Sc where its constant. As the experts will say," This is the inherent problem with turbocharging an auto BMW. There really is no way around this. The Tranny DME is sensing too much torque and restricting your throttle. Superchargers can get away with this by running nominal amounts of boost, but turbochargers [due to their boost/torque spikes] will not mesh well with an auto. I would simply swap out the tranny for a manual...this is the only solution." enuff said.
 
Yeah, a manual tranny swap would be a good idea. In fact, you would find that there would be a significant performance increase should you swap to a manual from an auto... you might want to consider that.
 
for auto tranny solutions, there are a few, but some are not easy to find. for power up to 300~320bhp, 330i tranny will suffice. for higher power than that, you can try to use the ZF tranny, 5HP24 (i think) from the Alpina B3 3.3, since there should be a 20-50% safety margin over and above the B3's specs.

i'm not sure if the E39 540i's auto tranny can be modified to fit but it's worth a little research if you're keen on retaining an auto. TC on a BMW is quite tasty. Check out ATP.
 
a swap like that would cost like wat?.. 3-4 k right ?... if im not wrong??..
 
RB, I thought that for any tranny, its not the hp that matters but rather how much torque that your car is producing, so in that case, one would need to see the torque curve of the car rather than the peak power output right. But that being said and done, the 330 tranny should suffice. if not then just order an upgraded torque converter.
 
yes yes for torque converter it's always about torque but the bhp figure is a good indication since most conversion's torque figures are not so readily quoted.
 
I suppose but to follow the hp number can be misleading as certain engines have high peak hp but very little low end torque... you get my meaning lah... torque figures for conversions should be available quite easily, as a rule of thumb it should be close to the torque figure of the engine you are switching too right? Since most torque figures online are published at the flywheel, there is no additional complication with drive train loss what. Am i wrong?
 
what i'm saying is that since rpm for bmws are usually at 6500-7000 there shouldnt be any case of high hp low torque figures, thus bhp should be numerically about the same as torque in lbft, so layman wise can be interchangable since hp and torque is essentially the same thing with rpm factored in. but you're right, tolerances should be strictly compared in torque. anyways in dynos torque is directly measured and bhp is back-calculated by the computer.
 
just out of interest, i take it than an engine swop would be illegal. if so can it be regularised by LTA?

separately, if you wanted to do a auto- manual swop would that have to be done by pml? or would u order the parts and get another workshop to do it.
 

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