Ice Gurus Fall in! using old stuffs from previous ride for E90 ICE.

Sexytoy

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hehe advise needed....

After hearding how much motofish is enjoying his new set up..I am also itching for a set now.

I have just took out my A/D/S 4 channel amp and another 2 channel amp and a not so fantastic MTX 10"subwoofer.

What will I need to buy for a decent set up?

4 inch componet speaker? any recommendation?
How much is the alpine DSP 701?
Any others items?

Thanks for the advise
 
Re: Ice Gurus Fall in! using old stuffs from previous ride for E90 ICE.

I would really love to see you using the A/D/S 4 channel to just drive the front component speakers ACTIVE. 2ch for tweeters, 2 ch for midrange. The 701 will handle the signals for you very very nicely, you can then fully tune the crossover levels, and specific razor sharp imaging coz your time alignment for your tweeters are separate from your mid range.

You could use the existing 2ch amp, bridge into a single channel and drive that woofer. What is the power of this amp anyway? If you plan to mount your sub FREEAIR - dun forget that this freeair config requires the most juice out of your amp, pump a measly 100W or 150W into the freeair config - you will just get fluffy boomy bass and then one day (soon) the woofer will just burn out. If you want me to elaborate why on this, it would take another A4 posting... hahaha

If that 2 ch amp is small, get a decent sized monoblock to drive your woofer (consider changing it?) and then use the existing 2 ch amp to drive the rear speakers. In the interest of budget, you can leave the rear speakers stock.

4" speakers - you have choices of Focals, Seas Lotus, and other brands - just depends which shop you go to. The 701 can make that great difference to be the conductor of this orchestra. But make sure you get an installer who knows how to tune and handle this unit.
 
Re: Ice Gurus Fall in! using old stuffs from previous ride for E90 ICE.

__iceman__ said:
If you want me to elaborate why on this, it would take another A4 posting... hahaha

Elaborate leh, then we can all learn mah...
 
Re: Ice Gurus Fall in! using old stuffs from previous ride for E90 ICE.

thank you for your valuable input. What freeair will you recommend?

we are all ears
 
Re: Ice Gurus Fall in! using old stuffs from previous ride for E90 ICE.

Branding is very subjective. Here's what i previously wrote on this subject of subwoofer selection,

http://www.bmw-sg.com/forums/i-c-e-section/3081-subwoofer-dilemma.html

Woofers... how they work depend on how much air they push. Obviously its a function of how efficiently it uses the power given to it, and how much power is available to drive it, and when it moves... how much 'air' it pushes.

Twin woofers of course double your surface area.

Let's say... compare a two 10" vs single 12", or 15" for that matter. Which is better?

Assuming you have sufficient power for both config...

* 2x 8" will give you more surface area. (simple math).
* The 8" woofer has lower mass, so will have better punch, faster response (physics)
* The 8" will have a high freq response, as resonant freq is higher. In terms of bass, it will be punchier than the bigger woofer. 60Hz to 90Hz maybe.
* The 15 will have a lower resonant freq, and give deep deep earth rocking bass. 40-60Hz range. However, if you want it to punch, you'll need ooldes of power for it to move that mass really fast.
* The 8" will not give you deep bass. Pong pong instead of boom boom (hahah I told you I'm amateur!)
* Normal price? 8" may cost 140. 12" may be 200. It goes to say that 2x8" will cost more than a single 12". Plus box is more costly.

However, it doesn't mean that you should go with 8" and give it 800W RMS and expect it to boom deep bass, bass will just be slightly lower than the kind you get out of the 6.5" mid range. The physical size of the thing just can't cater for such work.

Similarly you can't expect 15" to easily give you the pong pong punch. In rare cases of perfect tuning, matching with enclosure and amp, you may.

For this reason, you see that the most usable woofers are in sizes of 10", and 12". My dream is always to have 3x10" in a sealed box, compared to 1x15" or 2x12". 10" gives me good response, best surface area, but its expensive and can end up too big.
 
Re: Ice Gurus Fall in! using old stuffs from previous ride for E90 ICE.

Image dynamics IDMax 12"..can mount inverted...
 

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