What is this sign - Gear with !
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carbonfac3d
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Re: What is this sign - Gear with !
Yup got that sign once, get ready the cheque book
Yup got that sign once, get ready the cheque book
taizi_dominic
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Re: What is this sign - Gear with !
happened when my alternator broke down..batt light came on first then all other lights then engine loss power..
happened when my alternator broke down..batt light came on first then all other lights then engine loss power..
E83_X3
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Re: What is this sign - Gear with ! in the centre
You must have either:
(1) Floored your accelerator (pedal-to-metal) launching from stationary
(2) Floored your accelerator (pedal-to-metal) while on the move, racing with another car and negotiated a bend
Either way, its the auto transmission hiccup - at high RPM and will force you immediately on 'Safe Mode', and orange gear sign with '!' appears. If yours has x-Drive, the 4x4 with circular arrow will also appear. Your car will lose power and start to crawl.
Remedy: Don't push the car any more. You have just lost the race with the other car. Just slow down to a safe area and switch off engine. Wait a couple of minutes, restart and all alarms would have disappeared. Continue driving.
And if you bring your car to PML, they will say nothing is wrong. To continue to monitor on your own. So LL you drive your car out.
Moral of the story: Unless your autotrans is of the ZF make, most of the entry-level BMW models now (be it E90, E60 up to 325/525 etc.) use the lower-cost, lower-spec, OEM gear box made by General Motors (GM). These are the ones that cannot 'handle' full-blast' max RPM manuevers consistently - yes, so it becomes an intermittent problem, difficult to diagnose.
AdrianNg;476700 said:
You must have either:
(1) Floored your accelerator (pedal-to-metal) launching from stationary
(2) Floored your accelerator (pedal-to-metal) while on the move, racing with another car and negotiated a bend
Either way, its the auto transmission hiccup - at high RPM and will force you immediately on 'Safe Mode', and orange gear sign with '!' appears. If yours has x-Drive, the 4x4 with circular arrow will also appear. Your car will lose power and start to crawl.
Remedy: Don't push the car any more. You have just lost the race with the other car. Just slow down to a safe area and switch off engine. Wait a couple of minutes, restart and all alarms would have disappeared. Continue driving.
And if you bring your car to PML, they will say nothing is wrong. To continue to monitor on your own. So LL you drive your car out.
Moral of the story: Unless your autotrans is of the ZF make, most of the entry-level BMW models now (be it E90, E60 up to 325/525 etc.) use the lower-cost, lower-spec, OEM gear box made by General Motors (GM). These are the ones that cannot 'handle' full-blast' max RPM manuevers consistently - yes, so it becomes an intermittent problem, difficult to diagnose.
Re: What is this sign - Gear with !
If yours is not a 335i, then most likely it's a GM Auto Trans. But look below...........
The 6L45 which is the one(I think) in all our non-335i can take up to 450NM of torque....If you do not SC or TC your car, BOH DAI JI lah.........BIAN KIA lah.....
How to even reach 300NM if you are NA?????
AHN Lah......
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The 6L50 (and similar 6L45) is a 6-speed longitudinally-mounted automatic transmission produced by General Motors. It is very similar in design to the larger 6L80/6L90, and is produced at the GM Powertrain plant in Strasbourg, France. It features clutch to clutch shifting, eliminating the bands used on older transmission designs. The 6L50 will debut for the 2007 model year on the V8-powered versions of the Cadillac STS sedan and Cadillac SRX crossover, and will eventually replace the 5L40-E and 5L50 in GM's lineup. The 6L45 version is totally dedicated to BMW applications, either RWD or AWD.
The 6L50 is adaptable to rear-wheel drive and all-wheel drive applications. It can accommodate engines with up to 332 ft·lbf (450 N·m) of torque, and vehicles with a GVWR of 5,000 lb (2,268 kg).
Gear ratios:
1 2 3 4 5 6 R
4.06 2.37 1.55 1.16 0.85 0.67 3.20
Applications:
6L45
If yours is not a 335i, then most likely it's a GM Auto Trans. But look below...........
The 6L45 which is the one(I think) in all our non-335i can take up to 450NM of torque....If you do not SC or TC your car, BOH DAI JI lah.........BIAN KIA lah.....
How to even reach 300NM if you are NA?????
AHN Lah......
=======================================================================================================================
The 6L50 (and similar 6L45) is a 6-speed longitudinally-mounted automatic transmission produced by General Motors. It is very similar in design to the larger 6L80/6L90, and is produced at the GM Powertrain plant in Strasbourg, France. It features clutch to clutch shifting, eliminating the bands used on older transmission designs. The 6L50 will debut for the 2007 model year on the V8-powered versions of the Cadillac STS sedan and Cadillac SRX crossover, and will eventually replace the 5L40-E and 5L50 in GM's lineup. The 6L45 version is totally dedicated to BMW applications, either RWD or AWD.
The 6L50 is adaptable to rear-wheel drive and all-wheel drive applications. It can accommodate engines with up to 332 ft·lbf (450 N·m) of torque, and vehicles with a GVWR of 5,000 lb (2,268 kg).
Gear ratios:
1 2 3 4 5 6 R
4.06 2.37 1.55 1.16 0.85 0.67 3.20
Applications:
6L45
- 2007– BMW X3 - 3.0si / 2.5si / 3.0i
- 2007– BMW 3 series - 330(x)i / 328(x)i / 325(x)i / 323i / 320i / 318i
- 2007– BMW 1 series - 130i / 128i / 125i / 120i / 118i / 116i
- 2006– Cadillac STS-V
- 2007– Cadillac STS
- 2007– Cadillac SRX
- 2008– Cadillac CTS
- 2009– Holden VE Commodore / Holden VE Berlina / Holden VE Calais / Chevrolet Lumina
- 2009– Holden WM Statesman / Holden WM Caprice / Chevrolet Caprice / Daewoo Veritas
tlkchew
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Re: What is this sign - Gear with ! in the centre
Gosh! Thanks for the insight! i hope my 318I E46 is not using a crappy gearbox, i have been pushing the car up to desaru with many dual carriage way overtaking at max RPM along the way.
So far i have not encountered the "!" sign. only once when the mechanic after changing my airfilter to K&N, forgot to replace the plug to the MAF sensor i got the light. Another time was when the connector the spark plugs was not connected properly which caused the car to jerk at low revs, like missing gear...
I hope i dont get into this problem as this kind of failure is DANGEROUS! as I have only a few seconds to make the decisive decision to over take and complete the overtake or slowdown and get back in lane, to avoid careening into the car coming opposite also at full blast, at least 250 km/h combined speed.
If the engine slows down because you Rev to max is normal for a lowend spec car, then BMW Germany should be castrated and put in jail for not highlighting this, and then sued for causing endangerment to people's lives!!!!
E83_X3;491177 said:
Gosh! Thanks for the insight! i hope my 318I E46 is not using a crappy gearbox, i have been pushing the car up to desaru with many dual carriage way overtaking at max RPM along the way.
So far i have not encountered the "!" sign. only once when the mechanic after changing my airfilter to K&N, forgot to replace the plug to the MAF sensor i got the light. Another time was when the connector the spark plugs was not connected properly which caused the car to jerk at low revs, like missing gear...
I hope i dont get into this problem as this kind of failure is DANGEROUS! as I have only a few seconds to make the decisive decision to over take and complete the overtake or slowdown and get back in lane, to avoid careening into the car coming opposite also at full blast, at least 250 km/h combined speed.
If the engine slows down because you Rev to max is normal for a lowend spec car, then BMW Germany should be castrated and put in jail for not highlighting this, and then sued for causing endangerment to people's lives!!!!
Re: What is this sign - Gear with ! in the centre
Go to Realoem.com
Key in the last 7 values (combination of letters and digits) of your VIN code.
And wah lah! You will see everything about YOUR own car. And I really mean your own car.
Go to Transmission and you will see which gearbox you have. The GM ones are usually denoted as "GA6L45R"
The ZF ones in 335i are usually denoted as "GA6HP19Z" for 2008 production onwards......
jerr87;491472 said:
Go to Realoem.com
Key in the last 7 values (combination of letters and digits) of your VIN code.
And wah lah! You will see everything about YOUR own car. And I really mean your own car.
Go to Transmission and you will see which gearbox you have. The GM ones are usually denoted as "GA6L45R"
The ZF ones in 335i are usually denoted as "GA6HP19Z" for 2008 production onwards......
astrid
Well-Known Member
Re: What is this sign - Gear with ! in the centre
If yours is an E46 / E90 or E39 / E60, then its probably a GM autotrans gearbox A5S390R.
General Motors OEM Steptronic was used as early as the following models (note: USA does not have 323/320/318 models - such cars are considered too puny for such a big country ... haha):
E39 528I from 9/99
E39 525I and 530I thru 02/01
E46 323 I/Ci thru 02/00
E46 99-00 328 I/Ci
E46 01-05 325Xi
E46 03/03 325 Ci
E46 from 03/02 325I
E46 01-05 330Xi
E46 03/03 330 I/Ci
Z3 01-02 2.5i and 3.0i
Only the much older BMW models are equipped with German ZF autotrans.
For later/current models, only the top-end models (e.g. M3, M5 etc.) are given the ZFs.
Just google it to confirm.
One BMW spare parts website:
BMW Automatic Transmission Filter Kit A5S360R / A5S390R (GM 5L40-E) E46 thru 02/00 323 I/CI, E46 99-00 328 I/Ci, E46 01-05 325Xi, E46 03/02-05 325I, E46 03/03-05 325 Ci, E46 01-05 330Xi, E46 03/03-05 330 I/Ci 24-11-7-557-070 / 24117557070 - Bimmer Pa
jerr87;491472 said:
If yours is an E46 / E90 or E39 / E60, then its probably a GM autotrans gearbox A5S390R.
General Motors OEM Steptronic was used as early as the following models (note: USA does not have 323/320/318 models - such cars are considered too puny for such a big country ... haha):
E39 528I from 9/99
E39 525I and 530I thru 02/01
E46 323 I/Ci thru 02/00
E46 99-00 328 I/Ci
E46 01-05 325Xi
E46 03/03 325 Ci
E46 from 03/02 325I
E46 01-05 330Xi
E46 03/03 330 I/Ci
Z3 01-02 2.5i and 3.0i
Only the much older BMW models are equipped with German ZF autotrans.
For later/current models, only the top-end models (e.g. M3, M5 etc.) are given the ZFs.
Just google it to confirm.
One BMW spare parts website:
BMW Automatic Transmission Filter Kit A5S360R / A5S390R (GM 5L40-E) E46 thru 02/00 323 I/CI, E46 99-00 328 I/Ci, E46 01-05 325Xi, E46 03/02-05 325I, E46 03/03-05 325 Ci, E46 01-05 330Xi, E46 03/03-05 330 I/Ci 24-11-7-557-070 / 24117557070 - Bimmer Pa
