335 to M3

Re: 335 to M3

Hi all,
thanks for all the advice.....didn't notice about valve clearence maintenance :(

How about city driving and spore HW driving....do you need to rev-high to overtake Merc taxi (eg. those who refuse to give-way) ?

Ken, what stopping you to get the M ? you have lot of $$ :)
 
Re: 335 to M3

stevenwu;737700 said:
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Let put 'upgrade' portion aside, advice needed for drivibility of a M3 if ones switches from 335 Jb4 to M3 for day-to-day driving ?

I am not a tracky :)

Any maintenance of a M3 will burst a hole in my pocket if I am not awared of (1-5Yr)?

Happy CNY to you and your family.

Day to day driving, there isn't a lot to expect given the increasing traffic volumes we have.
all just point A to point B. To me, M still holds the title of the best all rounder car in the world today.
The sedan especially :wavey:

If u buy AD's car, you are effectively only paying for the tires. The rest is all pretty much covered.
 
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zorro;737901 said:
Serious question...I think the Road tax is much higher compared to insurance for people with 50% NCD.. Main cost is still the yearly depreciation.

That's 100% for sure if you are 30 and above I believe.

Yes , yearly depreciation is for certain. More expensive the car is, more depre in absolute $.
 
Re: 335 to M3

jasonmaxima;738073 said:
Should have posted this in motoring life section.... At least can earn post count.....

Mw, hitmee, kenn, c3po, milk all agree... Pls thank me.

M3's torque will loose to a jb4 335.... Having said that... M3 is not a slug, just that engine is a bit more rev happy.

Btw, 5 year free maintenance at MA does not mean free oil every 5000km or whenever you feel like changing fluids.... But if you follow the prescribed oil change schedule, then its free.

Dude, that goes without saying.
Car maintenance is a scheduled servicing unless there's earlier problem detected in which case any issue will be sorted out prior to the schedule as well.
I don't see any issue with that honestly.

However, I'd suggest those who bring the cars out regularly to track, u should then change the fluids a bit more often and not wait for the scheduled servicing.

In all my previous cars, every 2 track days I changed fluids and the mileage clocked not even 5000 kms in between in most cases.
 
Re: 335 to M3

stevenwu;738332 said:
Hi all,
thanks for all the advice.....didn't notice about valve clearence maintenance :(

How about city driving and spore HW driving....do you need to rev-high to overtake Merc taxi (eg. those who refuse to give-way) ?

Ken, what stopping you to get the M ? you have lot of $$ :)

Over taking is such a breeze, 325 can do it at ease too.

Professor, you are too overly concerned. Yes 400Nm of torque on M3 is far short of the 600Nm in many souped up 335s. It's healthy torque number with wide band, nonetheless.

Having said that, I wish the M3 had 10% more torque so I can overtake those turbo powered diesel taxis in 5th gear when I am on uphill roads..
For now, it can't happen :verysad:
 
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TripleM;738543 said:
Dude, that goes without saying.
Car maintenance is a scheduled servicing unless there's earlier problem detected in which case any issue will be sorted out prior to the schedule as well.
I don't see any issue with that honestly.

However, I'd suggest those who bring the cars out regularly to track, u should then change the fluids a bit more often and not wait for the scheduled servicing.

In all my previous cars, every 2 track days I changed fluids and the mileage clocked not even 5000 kms in between in most cases.

Some trackies like to change fluids after every track day, but most ideal is before... Fresh oil to protect the engine.

Anyways, so far no complains about MA.
 
Re: 335 to M3

TripleM;738543 said:
Dude, that goes without saying.
Car maintenance is a scheduled servicing unless there's earlier problem detected in which case any issue will be sorted out prior to the schedule as well.
I don't see any issue with that honestly.

However, I'd suggest those who bring the cars out regularly to track, u should then change the fluids a bit more often and not wait for the scheduled servicing.

In all my previous cars, every 2 track days I changed fluids and the mileage clocked not even 5000 kms in between in most cases.

Need to factor in interim oil change from own pocket at 10km, 30km etc since Munich schedule is every 20,000km or more.


TripleM;738546 said:
Over taking is such a breeze, 325 can do it at ease too.

Professor, you are too overly concerned. Yes 400Nm of torque on M3 is far short of the 600Nm in many souped up 335s. It's healthy torque number with wide band, nonetheless.

Having said that, I wish the M3 had 10% more torque so I can overtake those turbo powered diesel taxis in 5th gear when I am on uphill roads..
For now, it can't happen :verysad:

Use the M mode lah. If not at least S mode.
 
Re: 335 to M3

stevenwu;738332 said:
Hi all,
thanks for all the advice.....didn't notice about valve clearence maintenance :(

How about city driving and spore HW driving....do you need to rev-high to overtake Merc taxi (eg. those who refuse to give-way) ?

Ken, what stopping you to get the M ? you have lot of $$ :)

if a taxi can chiet the E9x M3, its coz the driver isnt pushing hard enuff... 2nd gear M mode will likely tear everything except supercars.

From engine oil to petrol, all expenses r def more than 335. If u dont like it, then dont buy the M.
 
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Use the M mode lah. If not at least S mode.

M Mode is a cheat mode. Toto says one.

Ok, I have not driven the car in D mode at all. Not even in E46 days tho the DCT today is actually a lot better in auto mode but have to be at least 3 bars else quite a retard.
 
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time for a supercharger on the m3... ESS or GINTANI... much torque...but troublesome to demod next time. enjoy NA first..



Having said that, I wish the M3 had 10% more torque so I can overtake those turbo powered diesel taxis in 5th gear when I am on uphill roads..
For now, it can't happen :verysad:[/QUOTE]
 
Re: 335 to M3

FI an N.A engine is bound to kaboom...
Give me free I also don't want.
 
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steven, after owning the m3 sedan for 3 year clocking 58k km to date, i can tell you the maintenance cost is not much different than my previous e60 530i.
i am not into changing oil frequently other than what the computer told me to. yes the engine oil does cost more than regular engine oil. Prescribed maintenance cost me around $1K a year. as it ages, i suspect i need to change disk brakes etc. etc. so in the 4th year i probably think some major wear and tear replacement will call on and if i am going to keep it till the next best one comes up..
it's my daily car, it has dual personality... sedate and wild. drive normal and to the unassuming in the pax seats can't even tell there are 420 ponies in the lump.. and surprise them with the wild scream to 7000rpm and S5 shift.
by the way the 4-3-2 dct kick down is addictive and a head turner feature.
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be warned though once you are on M... there is no going back... read "you are stuck" and slope is slippery.. and you can ask eugene about that i guess... hahahaha!
 
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m is always m no doubts about it. the ang mohs dun spend millions on m tech for nothing. can't compare 335 between m. an apple and orange even though both r fruits.
 
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running conservative boost like 0.5 bar is very safe with a good tune, even on the high comp engine...

only kaboom if go over 1bar without engine build...


TripleM;738727 said:
FI an N.A engine is bound to kaboom...
Give me free I also don't want.
 
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thank you all for your advice......it's really help a lot....Happy Lunar New Year to you and your family.
 
Re: 335 to M3

The M3 has higher FC too. One litre of fuel will cover 1km lesser.
 
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