Bluetooth for PFL E90 320i
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Re: Bluetooth for PFL E90 320i
check if you have the USB option first as there is a MULF2 module which controls the USB functions and the BT functions.
if you do not have the option, retrofit will cost about 1K just in parts alone. there is still coding to be done for the car.
when i did mine, i was quoted 2.1K for coding and hardware by one of the site sponsors.
as my E90 LCI came with the USB option, my retrofit cost me less than $200 for the bluetooth antenna, mic, antenna cable, mic wire and wiring pins for connecting to the module controlling the USB. i DIY the coding.
parts needed (if you have the MULF2) are
microphone: 84316938762
BT antenna: 84506928461
antenna cable is SMB female to SMB female cable. can buy this from eBay
mic wiring is just any normal wires which comes in 1 pair or you can buy more expensive shielded cable
wiring pins are MQS pins which can be bought from RS components singapore.
check if you have the USB option first as there is a MULF2 module which controls the USB functions and the BT functions.
if you do not have the option, retrofit will cost about 1K just in parts alone. there is still coding to be done for the car.
when i did mine, i was quoted 2.1K for coding and hardware by one of the site sponsors.
as my E90 LCI came with the USB option, my retrofit cost me less than $200 for the bluetooth antenna, mic, antenna cable, mic wire and wiring pins for connecting to the module controlling the USB. i DIY the coding.
parts needed (if you have the MULF2) are
microphone: 84316938762
BT antenna: 84506928461
antenna cable is SMB female to SMB female cable. can buy this from eBay
mic wiring is just any normal wires which comes in 1 pair or you can buy more expensive shielded cable
wiring pins are MQS pins which can be bought from RS components singapore.
Re: Bluetooth for PFL E90 320i
the headunit is independent of the BT feature as the original setup for BT is controlled by either a TCU (for BMW Assist) or a MULF2(USB functions) which are seperate modules and connected to the headunit by the car's optic fiber network. the BT antenna and mic wirings are then connected back to the TCU or MULF2. these wirings would have existed for cars which come with phone prep or the option SA640. i read that BMW did install phone prep for all cars built prior to march 2009. but i'm not sure if this applicable to our local models. you can always log on to BMW parts catalogue site to check what options your car came from the factory. Electronic parts catalogue
however, the expensive part for this retrofit is the MULF2 module which costs about 600 to 800 compared to the wiring/cables which cost less than $50.
there is a newer version of headunit for E90 which comes integrated with BT and USB functions which you can buy and retrofit which might be a cheaper solution. but you still require coding for the functions to work which some site sponsors do not offer the coding only service.
Jetpilot;949487 said:
the headunit is independent of the BT feature as the original setup for BT is controlled by either a TCU (for BMW Assist) or a MULF2(USB functions) which are seperate modules and connected to the headunit by the car's optic fiber network. the BT antenna and mic wirings are then connected back to the TCU or MULF2. these wirings would have existed for cars which come with phone prep or the option SA640. i read that BMW did install phone prep for all cars built prior to march 2009. but i'm not sure if this applicable to our local models. you can always log on to BMW parts catalogue site to check what options your car came from the factory. Electronic parts catalogue
however, the expensive part for this retrofit is the MULF2 module which costs about 600 to 800 compared to the wiring/cables which cost less than $50.
there is a newer version of headunit for E90 which comes integrated with BT and USB functions which you can buy and retrofit which might be a cheaper solution. but you still require coding for the functions to work which some site sponsors do not offer the coding only service.
Jetpilot
Well-Known Member
Re: Bluetooth for PFL E90 320i
Thanks bro. I guess it is not worthwhile to get that unless I can get a 2nd hand unit.
As for decoding, that maybe a challenge.
I found the bluetooth with USB function headunit that cost about 400-500. Besides the decoding, I am afraid my car doesn't have the wiring.
Thanks bro. I guess it is not worthwhile to get that unless I can get a 2nd hand unit.
As for decoding, that maybe a challenge.
I found the bluetooth with USB function headunit that cost about 400-500. Besides the decoding, I am afraid my car doesn't have the wiring.
lim_ck;949501 said:
Re: Bluetooth for PFL E90 320i
coding will be a challenge for these new headunits as techincally, these newer headunits are not supposed to be installed on the PFL E90s. but i have read that the folks in US has managed to get it working but after alot of trial and errors with coding and using more expensive coding hardware rather than the cheap OBD cable.
Jetpilot;949531 said:
coding will be a challenge for these new headunits as techincally, these newer headunits are not supposed to be installed on the PFL E90s. but i have read that the folks in US has managed to get it working but after alot of trial and errors with coding and using more expensive coding hardware rather than the cheap OBD cable.
Re: Bluetooth for PFL E90 320i
No point getting a TCU. MULF2 can give u USB functionality as well. But you need to check if your car already has the MOST bus installed an your headunit had optical connections to the MOST bus. If your car does not have these 2 basic requirements, then things will get more expensive since you need to change head unit and install optic fibers in the car.
You can find used MULF2 modules on eBay. Best is get those marked as MULF2 high basis SVS as these modules give you voice control for the BT phone as well.
Jetpilot;949584 said:
No point getting a TCU. MULF2 can give u USB functionality as well. But you need to check if your car already has the MOST bus installed an your headunit had optical connections to the MOST bus. If your car does not have these 2 basic requirements, then things will get more expensive since you need to change head unit and install optic fibers in the car.
You can find used MULF2 modules on eBay. Best is get those marked as MULF2 high basis SVS as these modules give you voice control for the BT phone as well.
Red_Bean_Bun
Well-Known Member
Re: Bluetooth for PFL E90 320i
Mabe Propel .... those cars destined for scrap or export .....
Mabe Propel .... those cars destined for scrap or export .....
Jetpilot;949584 said:
Re: Bluetooth for PFL E90 320i
I had the BMW garmin which integrates with the car audio for calls as well. But having to plug the GPS onto its holder just to use the phone function is a big turn off which is why I did the BT retrofit after finding that I had a MULF2 in my car.
canuck78;949675 said:
I had the BMW garmin which integrates with the car audio for calls as well. But having to plug the GPS onto its holder just to use the phone function is a big turn off which is why I did the BT retrofit after finding that I had a MULF2 in my car.
Red_Bean_Bun
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Re: Bluetooth for PFL E90 320i
They are other junkyards in that case ...... there's always someone scrapping ......
They are other junkyards in that case ...... there's always someone scrapping ......
Jetpilot;949684 said:
canuck78
Well-Known Member
Re: Bluetooth for PFL E90 320i
Well, I leave my GPS permanently mounted and auto-start every time. But yeah it doesn't auto mute the radio which is a hassle.
So for PFL e90 the first step is to remove the head unit to check for the 2 green auto cables?
Well, I leave my GPS permanently mounted and auto-start every time. But yeah it doesn't auto mute the radio which is a hassle.
So for PFL e90 the first step is to remove the head unit to check for the 2 green auto cables?
lim_ck;949687 said:
Re: Bluetooth for PFL E90 320i
yup. check if the radio connector looks something like the one in the pic below with 4 round "connection points" on the bottom right of the main connector. you can see one thick green cable. the other green cable is actually inside one black trunking and both cables are connected to the main connector. if you do not see these 2 cables, that means your car do not have MOST bus installed.
canuck78;949720 said:
yup. check if the radio connector looks something like the one in the pic below with 4 round "connection points" on the bottom right of the main connector. you can see one thick green cable. the other green cable is actually inside one black trunking and both cables are connected to the main connector. if you do not see these 2 cables, that means your car do not have MOST bus installed.
Inspironboy
Active Member
Re: Bluetooth for PFL E90 320i
Hi lim_ck, is your car 2009 318i like mine?
from your reply, it seems like you have done research on how to DIY this problem.
how do you know if there is a USB module? mine has USB and Aux in options, inside the centre console, does that mean I have it?
Appreciate if you can direct me to any shop you have used or any reference/manual that you used.
I just bought mine last week and i feel that this feature is really important to me.
Thanks in advance.
lim_ck;949469 said:
Hi lim_ck, is your car 2009 318i like mine?
from your reply, it seems like you have done research on how to DIY this problem.
how do you know if there is a USB module? mine has USB and Aux in options, inside the centre console, does that mean I have it?
Appreciate if you can direct me to any shop you have used or any reference/manual that you used.
I just bought mine last week and i feel that this feature is really important to me.
Thanks in advance.
