BMW Performance Intake & Exhaust for E90 320i?

Re: BMW Performance Intake & Exhaust for E90 320i?

I cannot be sure but it is especially true when moving at speed above 40kph when engine drops to 5th or 6th gear the rattles will reccur at around 1,500 rpm if i put some load on it, e.g. uphill climb.

i would theorize that at those speeds there is actually quite a bit of air being "scooped" into the engine and that makes it run slightly lean. i would believe the engine is already quite lean to reduce the emissions. if i am going to get it tuned, it will run even more lean.

with the scoops -- at 1,500 rpm the engine is very hesitant to rev, which is another sign of lean mix. but if i go over 3,500rpm it takes off like a rocket.

now it seems that BMW wants the engine to pull the air by itself and not have the air forced into the engine. racing and street driving is quite different. if i'm racing and constantly have the engine revved above 3,000 rpms then having air forced make a little bit of sense, but imagine the engine at idle and you are blasting it with air, all the ECM is going to do is either 1) feed more fuel to compensate for the extra air which would cause a rise in rpm or 2) close the throttle (valves in our case of valvetronic), both with a negative effect on linearity of the rev range and likely make it harder for the engine to properly rev-match during gear shifting.

without the scoop the effect is more linear, i.e. no sudden rocket at 3,500rpm but also no hesitant revving near 1,500 rpm.
it is true that after removing the scoops i find the gear shifts a little quicker also.

i mean, i understand the theory of it. i used to drive the nissan latio which had air intakes at the crack of the bonnet opening. air goes right into that crack. but that engine does not have valvetronic and i think does not even have VVL -- only VVT. it spends a lot of time revving since it's such a damn small engine in the first place.

anyway... it's ok -- it's just a piece of metal. i would rather spend that money on something that makes a bit more sense, e.g. better sparks or air filter. cheers~
 
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Re: BMW Performance Intake & Exhaust for E90 320i?

Dear friends,

I recently enquired with PML about the Performance Exhaust n even though i was ok with the price, I just wanted to cash and carry, as I have my own preferred workshop to go to but PML INSISTED that it is company policy that I have to the exhaust installed by them and they will send it to LTA for approval as they have all the paper work.

To me, thats utter BS and I refused and still insisted on cash and carry. But PML refused to budge and refused to sell me the exhaust.

Have anyone of you encountered such a situation? I was so damn pissed off, what happened to my rights as a customer? Why can't I choose my own workshop to install the exhaust? Why do I have to leave my car with PML for 1 - 1.5 days? Why do I have to pay $100+ for installation when i can have it done elsewhere at a cheaper price? And since its an ORIGINAL BMW part, why do I need to send to LTA for inspection? Isn't it already an APPROVED ORIGINAL BMW PART? :wtf:

The more I think about it, the more pissed off I get! :furious::furious::furious:

Is there anywhere else I can get this exhaust? Is Eng Soon able to get this exhaust for me? Please advise friends...

Many thanks in advance!
 
Re: BMW Performance Intake & Exhaust for E90 320i?

Hi, LTA approval for the exhaust was obtained in my case. Cheers
 
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Yes, I do agree that LTA approval should be sought, but why cn't my own workshop go do it instead? Why must PML insist on installing it for me when I do not want them to? Basically, they can go K.M :shakebon:
 
Re: BMW Performance Intake & Exhaust for E90 320i?

If you want to cash and carry, why not call Eng Soon up? Why waste your energy with PML? Why must you insist getting it at PML? Why let your blood pressure boil? The more I think if your complaint, the more confused I get. Why not try MA? Give them a call... tell them the price PML quoted you. Ask them to match the price. You can try calling Andrian. He's the guy at the parts office at MA I was in touch with.

In any case, yes the LTA inspection *is* required. There's no point buying it and not having it inspected... you might as well go for other aftermarket exhausts in that case.

The exhaust is worth every cent. It's damn SHIOK.

I don't mean to be offensive but if you can afford a BMW... whats that $50 savings from having outside workshop install? My fuel costs $100 per tank.
 
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Re: BMW Performance Intake & Exhaust for E90 320i?

detach8;699925 said:
just got my ride w/ the BMW performance exos today and it is DAMN SHIOK. u just feel like revving the car. my FC drop from 9.4 to 8.4.

and it certainly does get better when the engine is warmed up.

BUT... still no power :S

Swee ~~ :)

Wait till its fully run in ~~ :sneaky: :sneaky:
Seems like u need to weld e third hanger back to pull up e twin exhaust tip.. :eek:

Think need to taxi yur ride to know wat u mean by no power ~~ :eek:

Cheers ~~ :)
 
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Re: BMW Performance Intake & Exhaust for E90 320i?

phantom628;700092 said:
Dear friends,

I recently enquired with PML about the Performance Exhaust n even though i was ok with the price, I just wanted to cash and carry, as I have my own preferred workshop to go to but PML INSISTED that it is company policy that I have to the exhaust installed by them and they will send it to LTA for approval as they have all the paper work.

To me, thats utter BS and I refused and still insisted on cash and carry. But PML refused to budge and refused to sell me the exhaust.

Have anyone of you encountered such a situation? I was so damn pissed off, what happened to my rights as a customer? Why can't I choose my own workshop to install the exhaust? Why do I have to leave my car with PML for 1 - 1.5 days? Why do I have to pay $100+ for installation when i can have it done elsewhere at a cheaper price? And since its an ORIGINAL BMW part, why do I need to send to LTA for inspection? Isn't it already an APPROVED ORIGINAL BMW PART? :wtf:

The more I think about it, the more pissed off I get! :furious::furious::furious:

Is there anywhere else I can get this exhaust? Is Eng Soon able to get this exhaust for me? Please advise friends...

Many thanks in advance!

Reason is because its under BMW performance parts thus PML has the right not to sell to you (with LTA approval) if its not installed by them.. (Same goes with MA - I think)

Just like some after market exhaust (eg: HKS) .. Available at any workshop @ pretty standard price but when have a change of ownership, Have to make a trip down to Garage R (basing on HKS) for the ownership transfer with a fee payable.

PML or MA offers a package which includes installation & LTA inspection without you visiting LTA yourself but on the downside of 1.5 to 2days downtime. Which I felt alrite & nice way to coupe in such package service. (Lesser time spend on my side & headache during inspection)

Perhaps you may wanna consider other after market exhaust.. (better still if LTA approved is not yur main issue).. there r alot of brand / design / setup for u to choose (be in local or ebay) :)

Cheers ~~ :)
 
Re: BMW Performance Intake & Exhaust for E90 320i?

detach8;700111 said:
If you want to cash and carry, why not call Eng Soon up? Why waste your energy with PML? Why must you insist getting it at PML? Why let your blood pressure boil? The more I think if your complaint, the more confused I get. Why not try MA? Give them a call... tell them the price PML quoted you. Ask them to match the price. You can try calling Andrian. He's the guy at the parts office at MA I was in touch with.

In any case, yes the LTA inspection *is* required. There's no point buying it and not having it inspected... you might as well go for other aftermarket exhausts in that case.

The exhaust is worth every cent. It's damn SHIOK.

I don't mean to be offensive but if you can afford a BMW... whats that $50 savings from having outside workshop install? My fuel costs $100 per tank.

That's precisely why I posted asking for advice...I wanted to know if Eng Soon does carry this exhaust. I never insisted I had to get from PML nor am I wasting any energy with them.

Thanks for the advice on MA, but may I know what's MA?

N for the savings on installation, since I was gonna go for tuning at the same workshop, I thought I might as well let them install n tune at the same time....
 
Re: BMW Performance Intake & Exhaust for E90 320i?

phantom628;700144 said:
That's precisely why I posted asking for advice...I wanted to know if Eng Soon does carry this exhaust. I never insisted I had to get from PML nor am I wasting any energy with them.

Thanks for the advice on MA, but may I know what's MA?

N for the savings on installation, since I was gonna go for tuning at the same workshop, I thought I might as well let them install n tune at the same time....


Munich Auto...........








cheers
 
Re: BMW Performance Intake & Exhaust for E90 320i?

phantom628;700150 said:
Cool! Many thanks ac323!


or get Eisenmann.............there's a bro selling here...




cheers
 
Re: BMW Performance Intake & Exhaust for E90 320i?

ac323;700151 said:
or get Eisenmann.............there's a bro selling here...




cheers

That thought did cross my mind...very seriously....
 
Re: BMW Performance Intake & Exhaust for E90 320i?

phantom628;700152 said:
That thought did cross my mind...very seriously....


go for it..................................................vroom vroom










cheers
 
Re: BMW Performance Intake & Exhaust for E90 320i?

go go go... vroom vroom
 

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