Can i mix different engine oil?

Re: Can i mix different engine oil?

Since you know what's already in there .... Just get a bottle of the same stuff and pour it in.
 
Re: Can i mix different engine oil?

Cochran;990318 said:
Hi ppl

This morning i checked my engine oil level. Its at the 1/4 mark liao. the car have not give me alert to topup yet...

Its a 2006 320i at about 122k km mileage liao.

Done about 8500km now from last servicing without any topup as yet and another 1500km to next servicing.

The engine oil now in use is castrol titanium. In case the car alert me to top up. Can i use my other remain shell helix ultra engine oil to topup? mixing the oil.....

Thank you.

As a top up, while it's not ideal, it won't kill you engine. Preferably stick to at least the same weightage and formulation (if it's synthetic in there, top up with a synthetic oil).
 
Re: Can i mix different engine oil?

This is my understanding:

E.g. 5W30 refers to the viscousity range of 5-30. It actually means 5 Winter 30.
At cold temperatures the oil won't thicken up more than straight-5 weight oil, and when hot, the oil won;t thin out more than straight-30 weight oil. The same can be said for the other multi-viscosity oils just using the other numbers instead.

In a place like Singapore, where there is no winter, the front number does not really matter. Because we do not face wide range of climatic temperature change.

And to my understanding, it is ok to mix viscosity whether it is 30 or 40 etc, as long as it is synthetic. And became a norm if I am not wrong so that military vehicles can mix the different viscosities without worrying malfunction.

Just that a 30 vs 50 viscosity mix will land you a viscosity of about 40+/-. What you face is leas optimal performance because you may experience a heavier or lighter acceleration. For example, a high capacity M3 needs to use a higher viscosity so the thickness protects the engine. For a 2-L 320i, having the same mix will cause the car to have slower acceleration and your car feels heavy.

What you must not do is to mix "synthetic" with "standard" / "non-synthetic" engine oil.

But do verify with a professional/mechanic.

Cheers.
 
Re: Can i mix different engine oil?

1/4 left just change the engine oil. Topping up another 0.5-1L will not make any difference.
 
Re: Can i mix different engine oil?

rvt;999596 said:
This is my understanding:

E.g. 5W30 refers to the viscousity range of 5-30. It actually means 5 Winter 30.
At cold temperatures the oil won't thicken up more than straight-5 weight oil, and when hot, the oil won;t thin out more than straight-30 weight oil. The same can be said for the other multi-viscosity oils just using the other numbers instead.

In a place like Singapore, where there is no winter, the front number does not really matter. Because we do not face wide range of climatic temperature change.

And to my understanding, it is ok to mix viscosity whether it is 30 or 40 etc, as long as it is synthetic. And became a norm if I am not wrong so that military vehicles can mix the different viscosities without worrying malfunction.

Just that a 30 vs 50 viscosity mix will land you a viscosity of about 40+/-. What you face is leas optimal performance because you may experience a heavier or lighter acceleration. For example, a high capacity M3 needs to use a higher viscosity so the thickness protects the engine. For a 2-L 320i, having the same mix will cause the car to have slower acceleration and your car feels heavy.

What you must not do is to mix "synthetic" with "standard" / "non-synthetic" engine oil.

But do verify with a professional/mechanic.

Cheers.
For BMW, it does.

0-30 will not meet BMW standard.

0-40 is LL01 & not LL01-FE.
 
Re: Can i mix different engine oil?

Mixing of oil causes engine suspension so be careful before doing it.
 
Re: Can i mix different engine oil?

One comment: The front number does matter for discerned users. Viscosity at a certain temperature is different for 0-50 and 10-50.

rvt;999596 said:
This is my understanding:

E.g. 5W30 refers to the viscousity range of 5-30. It actually means 5 Winter 30.
At cold temperatures the oil won't thicken up more than straight-5 weight oil, and when hot, the oil won;t thin out more than straight-30 weight oil. The same can be said for the other multi-viscosity oils just using the other numbers instead.

In a place like Singapore, where there is no winter, the front number does not really matter. Because we do not face wide range of climatic temperature change.

And to my understanding, it is ok to mix viscosity whether it is 30 or 40 etc, as long as it is synthetic. And became a norm if I am not wrong so that military vehicles can mix the different viscosities without worrying malfunction.

Just that a 30 vs 50 viscosity mix will land you a viscosity of about 40+/-. What you face is leas optimal performance because you may experience a heavier or lighter acceleration. For example, a high capacity M3 needs to use a higher viscosity so the thickness protects the engine. For a 2-L 320i, having the same mix will cause the car to have slower acceleration and your car feels heavy.

What you must not do is to mix "synthetic" with "standard" / "non-synthetic" engine oil.

But do verify with a professional/mechanic.

Cheers.
 
Re: Can i mix different engine oil?

davidtch;999731 said:
For BMW, it does.

0-30 will not meet BMW standard.

0-40 is LL01 & not LL01-FE.

Seriously it won't matter mixing these oil as a top up if the same oil could not be found.
 
Re: Can i mix different engine oil?

Red_Bean_Bun;999748 said:
Actually not all 0w40 EOs are LL01 ......
Ya, i know especially the American EO.
 
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sandman369;999751 said:
Seriously it won't matter mixing these oil as a top up if the same oil could not be found.
Previously, i don't bother to top up @ 8k km. I juz drive to WS & do simple oil change. No need to find EO.
 
Re: Can i mix different engine oil?

For those who wants to know more about LL01 etc.
Here is a link: http://www.bimmerfile.com/wp-conten...ll-01_ll-01-fe-recommended-synthetic-oils.pdf

My opinion, if you are not pushing your ride "too hard", the mix should have negligible effect. Different brand have different standards, additives anyway. Certain brands may be of "standard" but may not have gotten the rating.

It is true that Bimmers may be a little more "sensitive" but I agree with the argument that a top up should not be an issue.

Another humble opinion is that, engine oil manufacturers will "strongly discourage" perhaps due to commercial reasons more than technical reasons.

Cheers.

sandman369;999751 said:
Seriously it won't matter mixing these oil as a top up if the same oil could not be found.
 
Re: Can i mix different engine oil?

Yes you can mix oils and even viscosities. But I must say this again, make sure you put in a oil that you are comfortable with.

There are some oils out there on the market that do not have enough heat resistance that causes sludge and caking. I have photos to prove. Is either that or oils that use lots of zinc to make the oil slippery. These high zinc oils are not agreeable with newer BMW engines that utilise a oil condition sensor. (Generally e60s and 6cyl e90s)
 
Re: Can i mix different engine oil?

R2D;999857 said:
Yes you can mix oils and even viscosities. But I must say this again, make sure you put in a oil that you are comfortable with.

There are some oils out there on the market that do not have enough heat resistance that causes sludge and caking. I have photos to prove. Is either that or oils that use lots of zinc to make the oil slippery. These high zinc oils are not agreeable with newer BMW engines that utilise a oil condition sensor. (Generally e60s and 6cyl e90s)
Is it safe to use oil with LL04 certification in Sg?
 
Re: Can i mix different engine oil?

davidtch;1000081 said:
Is it safe to use oil with LL04 certification in Sg?

As long as change before engine oil breaks down ..... LL04 breaks down faster.
 
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Red_Bean_Bun;1000237 said:
As long as change before engine oil breaks down ..... LL04 breaks down faster.

Why would this be the case and why would it be an issue since oil are typically changed (way ahead) at 10K km intervals?
 
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LL 04 oils are long life high efficiency oils that are usually 30wt based. They incorporate an additive package that is supposed to allow the oil to be used for up to 25000km or 15000miles. To get the LL04 oil to last without the development of sludge is the trick. One of the normal problems that we see is that the old oils does not come out just clear black (like Kopi O). Instead it comes out slightly cloudy (like Kopi gao). This is a sign that the oil has emulsified a lot of water that came through piston blow by.

like we said before, use a oil that you are comfortable with.
 
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When I look at the TBN of the 2 different standards - LL04 is a lot lower.

The sulphur content of the fuel has an influence on the detrioration as well. That's why LL04 good in Germany. Sulphur content lower there.

sandman369;1000266 said:
Why would this be the case and why would it be an issue since oil are typically changed (way ahead) at 10K km intervals?
 
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