Case of My E90 (320i) Disappearing Oil - 1 liter every 2000++km!!
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My 2006 E90 has 10 months left till COE expiry. It is consuming 1 liter of engine oil every 2 weeks (roughly 800 to 1000 km). The engine bay is dry. I have white smoke coming out when ramming the accelerator. I understand that the cost to repair will be more than $1000+ even if I go to JB.
I am prepared to keep topping up engine oil every 2 weeks. Total costs will be roughly 20 liters of engine oil. I am presently using Mobil 1 0W-40 which is quite expensive. I was at Giant and saw that they have a promotion on Shell Helix Ultra 5W-40 for $39.90 for a 4 liter bottle. On the back, it says BMW LL-01. I have a few questions:
1) Is Shell Helix Ultra 5W-40 approved for BMW E90?
2) Can I mix Shell 5W-40 with Mobil 0W-40?
3) What are the differences between using 5W-40 to 0W-40 especially in an old engine that has sludge built-up and disappearing engine oil?
4) What possible problems could arise within the next 10 months if my plan is to just top up engine oil?
5) Any other suggestions and advice are welcome. Thanks.
My 2006 E90 has 10 months left till COE expiry. It is consuming 1 liter of engine oil every 2 weeks (roughly 800 to 1000 km). The engine bay is dry. I have white smoke coming out when ramming the accelerator. I understand that the cost to repair will be more than $1000+ even if I go to JB.
I am prepared to keep topping up engine oil every 2 weeks. Total costs will be roughly 20 liters of engine oil. I am presently using Mobil 1 0W-40 which is quite expensive. I was at Giant and saw that they have a promotion on Shell Helix Ultra 5W-40 for $39.90 for a 4 liter bottle. On the back, it says BMW LL-01. I have a few questions:
1) Is Shell Helix Ultra 5W-40 approved for BMW E90?
2) Can I mix Shell 5W-40 with Mobil 0W-40?
3) What are the differences between using 5W-40 to 0W-40 especially in an old engine that has sludge built-up and disappearing engine oil?
4) What possible problems could arise within the next 10 months if my plan is to just top up engine oil?
5) Any other suggestions and advice are welcome. Thanks.
Re: Case of My E90 (320i) Disappearing Oil - 1 liter every 2000++km!!
Everyone is having the same problems, you will find lots of posts here. E90 320i engine is a PoS and will leak oil from every possible cavity and start burning oil internally.
There are two reasons why it could be burning oil - oil separator (CCV) or head gasket and valves. First one is cheap to replace second one is a major job.
If you only have 8 months left on the CoE and don't drive 5k/month I would go with the refill option.
You can mix the oil - modern car engines, even the crappy BMW one can run pretty much on any oil as long as you don't use olive oil. Get a few of the cheap Giant 4 liter bottles and be done with it.
It's not going to make a big difference, may burn a bit more as time passes but it's not damaging anything else apart from the environment.
CoE has come down quite a bit - time to look for a new car. Just make sure you make sure you don't spend any more money on cars with carp engines....
starwars;1127873 said:My 2006 E90 has 10 months left till COE expiry. It is consuming 1 liter of engine oil every 2 weeks (roughly 800 to 1000 km). The engine bay is dry. I have white smoke coming out when ramming the accelerator. I understand that the cost to repair will be more than $1000+ even if I go to JB.
I am prepared to keep topping up engine oil every 2 weeks. Total costs will be roughly 20 liters of engine oil. I am presently using Mobil 1 0W-40 which is quite expensive. I was at Giant and saw that they have a promotion on Shell Helix Ultra 5W-40 for $39.90 for a 4 liter bottle. On the back, it says BMW LL-01. I have a few questions:
1) Is Shell Helix Ultra 5W-40 approved for BMW E90?
2) Can I mix Shell 5W-40 with Mobil 0W-40?
3) What are the differences between using 5W-40 to 0W-40 especially in an old engine that has sludge built-up and disappearing engine oil?
4) What possible problems could arise within the next 10 months if my plan is to just top up engine oil?
5) Any other suggestions and advice are welcome. Thanks.
Everyone is having the same problems, you will find lots of posts here. E90 320i engine is a PoS and will leak oil from every possible cavity and start burning oil internally.
There are two reasons why it could be burning oil - oil separator (CCV) or head gasket and valves. First one is cheap to replace second one is a major job.
If you only have 8 months left on the CoE and don't drive 5k/month I would go with the refill option.
You can mix the oil - modern car engines, even the crappy BMW one can run pretty much on any oil as long as you don't use olive oil. Get a few of the cheap Giant 4 liter bottles and be done with it.
It's not going to make a big difference, may burn a bit more as time passes but it's not damaging anything else apart from the environment.
CoE has come down quite a bit - time to look for a new car. Just make sure you make sure you don't spend any more money on cars with carp engines....
Re: Case of My E90 (320i) Disappearing Oil - 1 liter every 2000++km!!
Thanks for your reply. As I was waiting for a confirmation regarding mixing the oil, the engine oil light came on while I was driving. In the end, I had to hunt down a nearby esso station and spent another $30 on a one liter Mobil 1 0W-40. I just had an oil sump gasket and flywheel oil seal replacement a few months ago. So, the problem must be the head gasket and valves. What is the cost to get this fix by workshop in JB with stocklist parts? $1,000 and above? If yes, I am better off stocking up on the cheap Shell oil available at Giant now.
martinsin;1127895 said:
Thanks for your reply. As I was waiting for a confirmation regarding mixing the oil, the engine oil light came on while I was driving. In the end, I had to hunt down a nearby esso station and spent another $30 on a one liter Mobil 1 0W-40. I just had an oil sump gasket and flywheel oil seal replacement a few months ago. So, the problem must be the head gasket and valves. What is the cost to get this fix by workshop in JB with stocklist parts? $1,000 and above? If yes, I am better off stocking up on the cheap Shell oil available at Giant now.
Re: Case of My E90 (320i) Disappearing Oil - 1 liter every 2000++km!!
we had the same replacements on ours when it was leaking. But internal consumption could be CCV or valves/head gasket. CCV replacement is not so expensive but for the "engine overhaul" Mr. Teh from BVO quoted around $2000 including parts.
Never explored the JB option but even if it is half price it's still a lot of engine oil.....
starwars;1127907 said:
we had the same replacements on ours when it was leaking. But internal consumption could be CCV or valves/head gasket. CCV replacement is not so expensive but for the "engine overhaul" Mr. Teh from BVO quoted around $2000 including parts.
Never explored the JB option but even if it is half price it's still a lot of engine oil.....
Red_Bean_Bun
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Re: Case of My E90 (320i) Disappearing Oil - 1 liter every 2000++km!!
Not too familiar about BMW engines compared to the true gurus on the forums but I would probably just get a couple of tests done to narrow the problem down.
I think if the head gasket has a problem - you will feel more NVH than just engine oil loss. A leak down test plus a benchmark on the pressure should tell what is going on with your head gasket.
If the valve seals got problems - that can be tested as well. Saw before that the valve seal's job is to let just enough EO to trickle down the valve stems. If it's worn then the EO would be flowing like Niagra falls then a lot of EO loss would happen.
Don't think JB is any cheaper these days ....
Just my 2 cents of thoughts ....
Not too familiar about BMW engines compared to the true gurus on the forums but I would probably just get a couple of tests done to narrow the problem down.
I think if the head gasket has a problem - you will feel more NVH than just engine oil loss. A leak down test plus a benchmark on the pressure should tell what is going on with your head gasket.
If the valve seals got problems - that can be tested as well. Saw before that the valve seal's job is to let just enough EO to trickle down the valve stems. If it's worn then the EO would be flowing like Niagra falls then a lot of EO loss would happen.
Don't think JB is any cheaper these days ....
Just my 2 cents of thoughts ....
Re: Case of My E90 (320i) Disappearing Oil - 1 liter every 2000++km!!
Hi, me having the same problem too. Just service my car early last month and beginning this week EO indicator light up. It shows 1/4 left. Went back to my WS and can't find any leak as they change all oil seal last month also. They suggested TOP overhaul. My car left with 1 year 10 months, don't think want to spent so much to do a TOP overhaul. Pls help pm me a WS to do valve seal changed. JB WS also can. Thank u.
Hi, me having the same problem too. Just service my car early last month and beginning this week EO indicator light up. It shows 1/4 left. Went back to my WS and can't find any leak as they change all oil seal last month also. They suggested TOP overhaul. My car left with 1 year 10 months, don't think want to spent so much to do a TOP overhaul. Pls help pm me a WS to do valve seal changed. JB WS also can. Thank u.
Re: Case of My E90 (320i) Disappearing Oil - 1 liter every 2000++km!!
1. Your user manual would state the engine oil to be used, ie 5w-40, 0w-40 etc
2. Little difference between the two. The first number represents the lubricant’s viscosity under lower temperatures, the lower the first number, the thinner it is at low temperatures. The second number represents the oil's viscosity under high temperatures, the higher the number, the thicker the oil will stay at high temperatures.
3. No one will know your car condition better than yourself. Your usage, style of driving, maintenance done etc. If you want to play it safe, following car manual recommendation would be best.
4. Unlikely to have any issues as long as there is sufficient engine oil. Most will just top up since it 10 months to go. However, the white smoke when accelerating doesn't seem too ideal a situation to be in.
starwars;1127873 said:My 2006 E90 has 10 months left till COE expiry. It is consuming 1 liter of engine oil every 2 weeks (roughly 800 to 1000 km). The engine bay is dry. I have white smoke coming out when ramming the accelerator. I understand that the cost to repair will be more than $1000+ even if I go to JB.
I am prepared to keep topping up engine oil every 2 weeks. Total costs will be roughly 20 liters of engine oil. I am presently using Mobil 1 0W-40 which is quite expensive. I was at Giant and saw that they have a promotion on Shell Helix Ultra 5W-40 for $39.90 for a 4 liter bottle. On the back, it says BMW LL-01. I have a few questions:
1) Is Shell Helix Ultra 5W-40 approved for BMW E90?
2) Can I mix Shell 5W-40 with Mobil 0W-40?
3) What are the differences between using 5W-40 to 0W-40 especially in an old engine that has sludge built-up and disappearing engine oil?
4) What possible problems could arise within the next 10 months if my plan is to just top up engine oil?
5) Any other suggestions and advice are welcome. Thanks.
1. Your user manual would state the engine oil to be used, ie 5w-40, 0w-40 etc
2. Little difference between the two. The first number represents the lubricant’s viscosity under lower temperatures, the lower the first number, the thinner it is at low temperatures. The second number represents the oil's viscosity under high temperatures, the higher the number, the thicker the oil will stay at high temperatures.
3. No one will know your car condition better than yourself. Your usage, style of driving, maintenance done etc. If you want to play it safe, following car manual recommendation would be best.
4. Unlikely to have any issues as long as there is sufficient engine oil. Most will just top up since it 10 months to go. However, the white smoke when accelerating doesn't seem too ideal a situation to be in.
limitdown
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Re: Case of My E90 (320i) Disappearing Oil - 1 liter every 2000++km!!
If you have only a few months remaining until COE expiry, you should just keep topping up oil. Mobil 1 is quite cheap if you buy online. Little red car sells a quart of $14.90.
If you want to change the valve cover gasket, any of the cheap shops can do it easily. Such as Sung Beng or 1st Auto at Circuit Road.
Even valve stem seals would be easy for these regular shops to change.
If you have only a few months remaining until COE expiry, you should just keep topping up oil. Mobil 1 is quite cheap if you buy online. Little red car sells a quart of $14.90.
If you want to change the valve cover gasket, any of the cheap shops can do it easily. Such as Sung Beng or 1st Auto at Circuit Road.
Even valve stem seals would be easy for these regular shops to change.
nivlac
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Re: Case of My E90 (320i) Disappearing Oil - 1 liter every 2000++km!!
I recommend not to do in JB. Went to a recommended shop, realized that while they fix the current problem they damage other parts making you a recurring customer. Didn't realize it till much later went back 5x. Now I just go back to sg workshop pay a bit more but confirm no such hanky panky.
I recommend not to do in JB. Went to a recommended shop, realized that while they fix the current problem they damage other parts making you a recurring customer. Didn't realize it till much later went back 5x. Now I just go back to sg workshop pay a bit more but confirm no such hanky panky.
playstation76
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Re: Case of My E90 (320i) Disappearing Oil - 1 liter every 2000++km!!
Shop name?nivlac;1131830 said:
Bro, don't mind to pm me the workshop contact and details please.
