Cross v PSS9
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j8833t
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Re: Cross v PSS9
IMHO, once we decide to over write OEM stuff of our rides (which the manufacturers' engrg & design spent years designing and planning) and modify with aftermarket pdts ...be prepared.
Most of us did it cus of "hearsay n butt feel" . While some mods have been proven for the better, some do have problems developing over time. As with all items, some unluckily will happen to be the owner of a problematic piece which other can't identify with...that's life.
My cross currently has a "BIRD" residing in it and it happily goes chirping away whenever I go over humps..Tis is the first, I believe, for Guys @ BVO and look like i got to down the front set to locate the "NEST" while fellow bros on CROSS are still happily humping away in comfort.
So be it whatever the brand..the more important question is, what is it u are after ?
Cheers
IMHO, once we decide to over write OEM stuff of our rides (which the manufacturers' engrg & design spent years designing and planning) and modify with aftermarket pdts ...be prepared.
Most of us did it cus of "hearsay n butt feel" . While some mods have been proven for the better, some do have problems developing over time. As with all items, some unluckily will happen to be the owner of a problematic piece which other can't identify with...that's life.
My cross currently has a "BIRD" residing in it and it happily goes chirping away whenever I go over humps..Tis is the first, I believe, for Guys @ BVO and look like i got to down the front set to locate the "NEST" while fellow bros on CROSS are still happily humping away in comfort.
So be it whatever the brand..the more important question is, what is it u are after ?
Cheers
Re: Cross v PSS9
Thanks Jack, it sure helps. I wonder if the cashier can help me tune the Cross...
TripleM;399132 said:
Thanks Jack, it sure helps. I wonder if the cashier can help me tune the Cross...
C3P0
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Re: Cross v PSS9
I am also interested to find out the difference between cross and PSS9, the contribution posts above are certainly useful....
I heard toto is not so nasty, he's nicer to his employees also. He only says: Dear, have you xxx today? Come, come to uncle here.....:chinese: Ok. sorry for OT...
I am also interested to find out the difference between cross and PSS9, the contribution posts above are certainly useful....
totoseow;399118 said:
fiercepink;399127 said:
I heard toto is not so nasty, he's nicer to his employees also. He only says: Dear, have you xxx today? Come, come to uncle here.....:chinese: Ok. sorry for OT...
Rastaman
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Re: Cross v PSS9
PSS9 - imho is very good but only upto a certain extent, like agressive cornering/ driving on s'pore -m'sia road ...if u wanna track yr car often then i say give them a pass as u will outgrow it ...its fine when u r a newbie setting it 1 or 2 ..but after awhile it aint hard enough/firm enough and u will find something lacking in there which is the double adjustment of rebound/compression. PSS( only has one which is at the bottom..its easy tho to adjust and thats something u must consider.
Im not sure if Cross is dual adjustable or not but if u a nut case like me (im on kw clubsport) who like to fark around with these things fm time to time (think abt the rear top suspension - how r u goin to adjust it?) dont forget most beemer have a nice hard covering which u have to remove (which is a bloody pain) evertime u need acccess the top to fiddle with it. For me i just cut a portion of the covering so i can just dip my hand.
Jazz i know which OG la..i dont think its the one at Bugis but the one at Chinatown...bloody bumpy and its a corner entering into CTE ...nice !! hammer yr cbaby round there ....i blve Ken will agree as well ...lol
PSS9 - imho is very good but only upto a certain extent, like agressive cornering/ driving on s'pore -m'sia road ...if u wanna track yr car often then i say give them a pass as u will outgrow it ...its fine when u r a newbie setting it 1 or 2 ..but after awhile it aint hard enough/firm enough and u will find something lacking in there which is the double adjustment of rebound/compression. PSS( only has one which is at the bottom..its easy tho to adjust and thats something u must consider.
Im not sure if Cross is dual adjustable or not but if u a nut case like me (im on kw clubsport) who like to fark around with these things fm time to time (think abt the rear top suspension - how r u goin to adjust it?) dont forget most beemer have a nice hard covering which u have to remove (which is a bloody pain) evertime u need acccess the top to fiddle with it. For me i just cut a portion of the covering so i can just dip my hand.
Jazz i know which OG la..i dont think its the one at Bugis but the one at Chinatown...bloody bumpy and its a corner entering into CTE ...nice !! hammer yr cbaby round there ....i blve Ken will agree as well ...lol
Re: Cross v PSS9
Thanks for the info, I reckon PSS9 will do an old fart like me! Don't have the courage like I used to have on the track or the time to justify the additional US$800 or so for the parts.
The price (US$) of the complete front and rear coilover kits from the net. PSS9 for E36 cheapest I found was $1500 and the cheapest JIC was $2300.
I am on stock at the moment on an E36 I bought cheap off SG carmart. I was going to tinker with the engine and tranny first but the steering is sloppy and the ride is more like a kids bouncy castle than precision German engineering. When I had a look underneath I was convinced about the urgency of the situation.
I have a couple of weeks off in Jan so am going to replace the whole front and rear suspension and steering. Don't believe in doing this in bits, false economy in time as well as cash.
BTW does any one know where I can pick up a couple of extra 2 ton axle stands in Singapore can't find em anywhere!
Thanks for the info, I reckon PSS9 will do an old fart like me! Don't have the courage like I used to have on the track or the time to justify the additional US$800 or so for the parts.
The price (US$) of the complete front and rear coilover kits from the net. PSS9 for E36 cheapest I found was $1500 and the cheapest JIC was $2300.
I am on stock at the moment on an E36 I bought cheap off SG carmart. I was going to tinker with the engine and tranny first but the steering is sloppy and the ride is more like a kids bouncy castle than precision German engineering. When I had a look underneath I was convinced about the urgency of the situation.
I have a couple of weeks off in Jan so am going to replace the whole front and rear suspension and steering. Don't believe in doing this in bits, false economy in time as well as cash.
BTW does any one know where I can pick up a couple of extra 2 ton axle stands in Singapore can't find em anywhere!
Roasty
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Re: Cross v PSS9
acupunch is on pss9. we both went up to sepang the last trackday.. he took a ride on my car on which i have the cross suspension. think we were both on medium settings. he did mention that my car was more level on turns and was able to keep a more aggressive line without having the car lose control/skid/drift. (but need to factor in that i also have anti roll bars, whereas he did not).
i've also driven up and down NS highway, first time on KWV2.. which was quite scary because at high speeds, after u drive over a hump or bump, the rebound sensation makes your car jump up and down a few times before it settles.. worse so if you encounter a few bumps in succession.. felt like i was on a trampoline!
second time on cross suspension, it was a more enjoyable and more controlled journey. car settles immediately after each bump/hump, and felt my car was more planted to the ground at all times.
my 2 cents..
acupunch is on pss9. we both went up to sepang the last trackday.. he took a ride on my car on which i have the cross suspension. think we were both on medium settings. he did mention that my car was more level on turns and was able to keep a more aggressive line without having the car lose control/skid/drift. (but need to factor in that i also have anti roll bars, whereas he did not).
i've also driven up and down NS highway, first time on KWV2.. which was quite scary because at high speeds, after u drive over a hump or bump, the rebound sensation makes your car jump up and down a few times before it settles.. worse so if you encounter a few bumps in succession.. felt like i was on a trampoline!
second time on cross suspension, it was a more enjoyable and more controlled journey. car settles immediately after each bump/hump, and felt my car was more planted to the ground at all times.
my 2 cents..
Re: Cross v PSS9
I called BVO. Got quoted S$3,100 for PSS9 and S$3,400 for CROSS.
Just to confirm, is this the one that fits E92 E93?
CROSS - CROSS Competition for BMW
I called BVO. Got quoted S$3,100 for PSS9 and S$3,400 for CROSS.
Just to confirm, is this the one that fits E92 E93?
CROSS - CROSS Competition for BMW
FiftyFive
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Re: Cross v PSS9
Allow me to say something here... I have tried BCs... PSS9s and of course the CROSS Competition suspension...
In order to fullfill my requirement of having a setup for the occasional visit to Sepang... The CROSS made a whole lot of difference... 12kg for frt and 10kg (spring rates are available for your requirements) for the rears... sure made a whole lot of difference... One hump, one bounce... Built quality is top notch... plus you get a set of camber plates with the kit. They are only adjustable one way... special valving in the shocks make up for the rebound adjustments...
In a nutshell... these coilovers have done exactly what they were designed for... HANDLING with a little sacrifice n comfort... well worth it when you consider the smile on your face after your drive once they have "settled in"....
Allow me to say something here... I have tried BCs... PSS9s and of course the CROSS Competition suspension...
In order to fullfill my requirement of having a setup for the occasional visit to Sepang... The CROSS made a whole lot of difference... 12kg for frt and 10kg (spring rates are available for your requirements) for the rears... sure made a whole lot of difference... One hump, one bounce... Built quality is top notch... plus you get a set of camber plates with the kit. They are only adjustable one way... special valving in the shocks make up for the rebound adjustments...
In a nutshell... these coilovers have done exactly what they were designed for... HANDLING with a little sacrifice n comfort... well worth it when you consider the smile on your face after your drive once they have "settled in"....
Re: Cross v PSS9
Cross FTW! But I need some help to adjust my Cross leh...
Cross FTW! But I need some help to adjust my Cross leh...
Re: Cross v PSS9
Agree. Cross is definitely not as comfy but that's where the "good stuff" comes in... You can feel the little bumps and I mean every bump on the road. Does get a bit frustrating along stretches of roads big construction trucks use regularly but you can't beat the handling...
TripleM;403849 said:
Agree. Cross is definitely not as comfy but that's where the "good stuff" comes in... You can feel the little bumps and I mean every bump on the road. Does get a bit frustrating along stretches of roads big construction trucks use regularly but you can't beat the handling...
Re: Cross v PSS9
Think it depends on what setting u r talking abt. I ve sat in an E92 set to 7/7 on the cross, it feels ok. At 8/8 well some uncomfortable was felt on sensitive bantark.
TripleM;403849 said:
Think it depends on what setting u r talking abt. I ve sat in an E92 set to 7/7 on the cross, it feels ok. At 8/8 well some uncomfortable was felt on sensitive bantark.
