Engine Oils
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canuck78
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Re: Engine Oils
To use different oil brands is still ok, but certainly not the viscosity that is not recommended for your car.
Think you can use the 0w-30 oil, and at most one viscosity grade up, i.e. 0w40, but not the 0w-50.
The 10w50 is simply too thick, and not suitable for your new F30 engine. Engine sluggishness, increased petrol consumption, etc
To use different oil brands is still ok, but certainly not the viscosity that is not recommended for your car.
Think you can use the 0w-30 oil, and at most one viscosity grade up, i.e. 0w40, but not the 0w-50.
The 10w50 is simply too thick, and not suitable for your new F30 engine. Engine sluggishness, increased petrol consumption, etc
Seraphblade;928047 said:
whitecrv2003
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Re: Engine Oils
Hi Bros,
Has anyone ever tried Chemlube? Supposed to be used in aircraft too.
Cheers.
DH
Hi Bros,
Has anyone ever tried Chemlube? Supposed to be used in aircraft too.
Cheers.
DH
Seraphblade
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Re: Engine Oils
Hmm, I tot most turbo cars are recommended to use thicker ones like the w50s?
Hmm, I tot most turbo cars are recommended to use thicker ones like the w50s?
canuck78;928082 said:
jinooi
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Re: Engine Oils
Those who don't know, pls ask.
those who know, pls help.
Those who think they know, but are not sure, pls refrain from giving advice.
like I've said before, a little knowledge is more dangerous than none at all.
at the current prices of new cars, are you confident enough to provide advice that's worth $150k?
Those who don't know, pls ask.
those who know, pls help.
Those who think they know, but are not sure, pls refrain from giving advice.
like I've said before, a little knowledge is more dangerous than none at all.
at the current prices of new cars, are you confident enough to provide advice that's worth $150k?
canuck78;928605 said:
canuck78
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Re: Engine Oils
Hi bro, can you be specific? Are you referring to the 5w-30 or 0w-50 issue?
Though I don't drive the F30, i searched around and it should be using 5w-30. In fact, all the new cars are using 5w-30 Longlife for engine cleanliness and efficiency. The answer is easily found in his F30 car user manual, if not other F30 bros, or PML can provide the answer.
Anyway, as you are one of those "in the know" you surely know must know that even he end up using the wrong type of oil viscosity, it will not blow up his 150k F30!
This is a forum for sharing experiences and knowledge. I agree we should be responsible for our postings, but are you willing to stand behind your postings and provide advice that is worth 150k?
Anyway, lighten up and my advice is only worth two cents
Hi bro, can you be specific? Are you referring to the 5w-30 or 0w-50 issue?
Though I don't drive the F30, i searched around and it should be using 5w-30. In fact, all the new cars are using 5w-30 Longlife for engine cleanliness and efficiency. The answer is easily found in his F30 car user manual, if not other F30 bros, or PML can provide the answer.
Anyway, as you are one of those "in the know" you surely know must know that even he end up using the wrong type of oil viscosity, it will not blow up his 150k F30!
This is a forum for sharing experiences and knowledge. I agree we should be responsible for our postings, but are you willing to stand behind your postings and provide advice that is worth 150k?
Anyway, lighten up and my advice is only worth two cents
jinooi;928627 said:
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canuck78
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Re: Engine Oils
Check out this link, i think bro kon has the answer here:
http://www.bmw-sg.com/forums/bmw-3-...hat-engine-oil-u-using-yr-f30.html#post840132
Check out this link, i think bro kon has the answer here:
http://www.bmw-sg.com/forums/bmw-3-...hat-engine-oil-u-using-yr-f30.html#post840132
Seraphblade;928047 said:
jinooi
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Re: Engine Oils
I'm talking about the bigger issue of giving advice that you're not sure about, then retracting it and asking people to check their car manual.
i do agree that the forum is for sharing experiences and knowledge, but if one is not sure, then one should state that upfront, e.g. "I heard that..., but I could be wrong. Pls check to be sure."
dude, no offence intended, so you don't have to go deleting all your previous posts.
I'm talking about the bigger issue of giving advice that you're not sure about, then retracting it and asking people to check their car manual.
i do agree that the forum is for sharing experiences and knowledge, but if one is not sure, then one should state that upfront, e.g. "I heard that..., but I could be wrong. Pls check to be sure."
dude, no offence intended, so you don't have to go deleting all your previous posts.
canuck78;928637 said:Hi bro, can you be specific? Are you referring to the 5w-30 or 0w-50 issue?
Though I don't drive the F30, i searched around and it should be using 5w-30. In fact, all the new cars are using 5w-30 Longlife for engine cleanliness and efficiency. The answer is easily found in his F30 car user manual, if not other F30 bros, or PML can provide the answer.
Anyway, as you are one of those "in the know" you surely know must know that even he end up using the wrong type of oil viscosity, it will not blow up his 150k F30!
This is a forum for sharing experiences and knowledge. I agree we should be responsible for our postings, but are you willing to stand behind your postings and provide advice that is worth 150k?
Anyway, lighten up and my advice is only worth two cents
jinooi
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Re: Engine Oils
Here's my 2 cents... And this is coming from experience...
I've tried engine oils of different weights from 30-50W.
If you are driving a NA car, 30W will be able to last you all the way between servicing intervals, which is about 5k-7k km.
if your ride is TC, it runs much much hotter. 30W oil will evaporate under these hot conditions and you will prob have to top it up in before you reach the next servicing interval.
I've tried 50W once or twice, and it doesn't make the car sluggish or increase fuel consumption. In fact, my FC improved! Could be because the thicker oil provides a better seal between the piston and the cylinder wall. And also at the high operating temp of my car, the viscosity of the oil is reduced and it behaves like a 30W would under normal operating temps. But even then, I would still have to top up about one litre just before I reach my 5k servicing interval.
so nowadays, I don't really bother too much about the brand of engine oil used - as long as it's synthetic, easy to get (40W is more widely available than 50W), and comes form a reputable brand.
no point using exotic engine oils as it's going to be replaced regularly.
the 'regular' brands are going to be just as efficient, just as long as it is changed regularly.
Here's my 2 cents... And this is coming from experience...
I've tried engine oils of different weights from 30-50W.
If you are driving a NA car, 30W will be able to last you all the way between servicing intervals, which is about 5k-7k km.
if your ride is TC, it runs much much hotter. 30W oil will evaporate under these hot conditions and you will prob have to top it up in before you reach the next servicing interval.
I've tried 50W once or twice, and it doesn't make the car sluggish or increase fuel consumption. In fact, my FC improved! Could be because the thicker oil provides a better seal between the piston and the cylinder wall. And also at the high operating temp of my car, the viscosity of the oil is reduced and it behaves like a 30W would under normal operating temps. But even then, I would still have to top up about one litre just before I reach my 5k servicing interval.
so nowadays, I don't really bother too much about the brand of engine oil used - as long as it's synthetic, easy to get (40W is more widely available than 50W), and comes form a reputable brand.
no point using exotic engine oils as it's going to be replaced regularly.
the 'regular' brands are going to be just as efficient, just as long as it is changed regularly.
Seraphblade
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Re: Engine Oils
That's my understanding as well... Esp when BMW cars run the oil much hotter... Most other cars have their idling temperature around 85 to 90degs, BMW have it around 95 to 105 degs, which is already hotter... And following the "recommendation" in their manual to use w40 and even worse, w30 seems really wierd... Esp if you whack the car a lot, I really think w50 seems a better balance.
I'm just curious why no bros here use Motul? It is definitely one of the best "racing" grade oil around... Anyone used it before?
That's my understanding as well... Esp when BMW cars run the oil much hotter... Most other cars have their idling temperature around 85 to 90degs, BMW have it around 95 to 105 degs, which is already hotter... And following the "recommendation" in their manual to use w40 and even worse, w30 seems really wierd... Esp if you whack the car a lot, I really think w50 seems a better balance.
I'm just curious why no bros here use Motul? It is definitely one of the best "racing" grade oil around... Anyone used it before?
jinooi;928713 said:
canuck78
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Re: Engine Oils
Motul more expensive and seems more popular with jap makes.
Also most bros would try to stick to European formula oils or at least LL-01 / bmw approved oils.
Nonetheless, I have also used Redline which is neither BMW approved nor LL-01 and it works fine as well. Other bros have used different brands which seems ok as well.
Motul more expensive and seems more popular with jap makes.
Also most bros would try to stick to European formula oils or at least LL-01 / bmw approved oils.
Nonetheless, I have also used Redline which is neither BMW approved nor LL-01 and it works fine as well. Other bros have used different brands which seems ok as well.
Seraphblade;928988 said:
canuck78
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Re: Engine Oils
Bros with their cars still under warranty will likely follow the manufacturer's stipulated oil type.
I must say so far I have used only 30w and 40w oils with good results. Haven't used 50w or thicker oils but heard from some bros that experienced abit sluggishness and also reduced mileage but on NA engines, not turbocharged ones like yours.
Good to hear from your experience in running 50w oils, they are not so common to find.
Bros with their cars still under warranty will likely follow the manufacturer's stipulated oil type.
I must say so far I have used only 30w and 40w oils with good results. Haven't used 50w or thicker oils but heard from some bros that experienced abit sluggishness and also reduced mileage but on NA engines, not turbocharged ones like yours.
Good to hear from your experience in running 50w oils, they are not so common to find.
jinooi;928713 said:
Red_Bean_Bun
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Re: Engine Oils
Personally - the oil weights in itself is only one factor. The cst@temperature and other specs can help one make a better informed decision .....
Personally - the oil weights in itself is only one factor. The cst@temperature and other specs can help one make a better informed decision .....
