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that's flattering, but u're not really my type.
). Should be a couple of Z4 owners around!
hmm,
back to my car for a while k?
read in today's ST that upfront taxes are expected to be reduced next year? so if i order my car now at a price based on current ARF rates/rebates, but PML can only deliver and register in june, by which time the ARF may have been reduced..... then how??
do i get a refund on difference in tax from PML if ARF is reduced?
also, any thoughts on when's the best time i should get my agent to bid for COE? when are the historically cheapest times? my agent's quite new to the business so not sure abt her advice leh...
wah, if can get below 20k, can use rebate for exhaust/aluminium pedals/ hand brake liao.... then if i get lowered ARF... maybe got enough for aerokit or keep aside for lambo style doors after warranty expire
back to my car for a while k?
read in today's ST that upfront taxes are expected to be reduced next year? so if i order my car now at a price based on current ARF rates/rebates, but PML can only deliver and register in june, by which time the ARF may have been reduced..... then how??
do i get a refund on difference in tax from PML if ARF is reduced?
also, any thoughts on when's the best time i should get my agent to bid for COE? when are the historically cheapest times? my agent's quite new to the business so not sure abt her advice leh...
wah, if can get below 20k, can use rebate for exhaust/aluminium pedals/ hand brake liao.... then if i get lowered ARF... maybe got enough for aerokit or keep aside for lambo style doors after warranty expire
thanks Racebred, i can always count on u for a reply! 
but prices were based on a 110% ARF with 55% rebate right? if upfront tax reduced, rebate will be reduced, meaning the original conditions under which the deal was agreed upon, i.e. resale/paper value of car has changed too...
i'm not cutting into their profits on the sale, just asking them to pass on tax reductions to me... same principle as the COE rebated at 20k clause right? after all, ARF and COE are paid to LTA, not them. but i see ur point on the retrospective charges.
that however opens up another can of worms... i may not be confronted with this issue if they had delivered on their promised date of march; so in effect, they have now effectively increased their profits from this sale by pushing back the promised delivery/registration date... which, i admit, they are fully entitled to do.
so what happens if they then decide to delay delivery of every single car they have on order now till after the ARF revision?? they stand to make gains of a few grand for every car right? and since customers have already paid non-refundable deposit, if they back out, they lose a few grand. either way, PML stands to gain from this if they choose to exploit the loophole, even if its legal, is it ethical?
i have no problems with the agreed price, but only if the car i get is registered with higher ARF. no sense paying based on higher ARF but still get the lowered rebate right? i dun know of any customer who likes paying more than he needs to.
am i making sense? or is this the hangover talking??
i think i have too much time on my hands... i should really stop worrying and hypothesizing but its my first purchase lah, so can't help it.
oh well, i guess i'll cross the bridge when i come to it, there may not be changes in ARF before june anyway. or PML may, out of goodwill, extend the refund to affected customers like me. like u said, sometimes we should give them the benefit of the doubt right? :thinking:
but prices were based on a 110% ARF with 55% rebate right? if upfront tax reduced, rebate will be reduced, meaning the original conditions under which the deal was agreed upon, i.e. resale/paper value of car has changed too...
i'm not cutting into their profits on the sale, just asking them to pass on tax reductions to me... same principle as the COE rebated at 20k clause right? after all, ARF and COE are paid to LTA, not them. but i see ur point on the retrospective charges.
that however opens up another can of worms... i may not be confronted with this issue if they had delivered on their promised date of march; so in effect, they have now effectively increased their profits from this sale by pushing back the promised delivery/registration date... which, i admit, they are fully entitled to do.
so what happens if they then decide to delay delivery of every single car they have on order now till after the ARF revision?? they stand to make gains of a few grand for every car right? and since customers have already paid non-refundable deposit, if they back out, they lose a few grand. either way, PML stands to gain from this if they choose to exploit the loophole, even if its legal, is it ethical?
i have no problems with the agreed price, but only if the car i get is registered with higher ARF. no sense paying based on higher ARF but still get the lowered rebate right? i dun know of any customer who likes paying more than he needs to.
am i making sense? or is this the hangover talking??
i think i have too much time on my hands... i should really stop worrying and hypothesizing but its my first purchase lah, so can't help it.
oh well, i guess i'll cross the bridge when i come to it, there may not be changes in ARF before june anyway. or PML may, out of goodwill, extend the refund to affected customers like me. like u said, sometimes we should give them the benefit of the doubt right? :thinking:
:thinking: i cannot take it, dun want to find out anymore... not like i can do anything abt it even if PML wants to makan me.... the more i think, the worse it gets, so i shall go study instead...
MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL U GUYS who've had the patience to follow my thread up to this point.
really need to start studying, so i shall have to go cold turkey on the forum... hmm, then again, maybe 30mins a day....
louis
MERRY CHRISTMAS TO ALL U GUYS who've had the patience to follow my thread up to this point.
really need to start studying, so i shall have to go cold turkey on the forum... hmm, then again, maybe 30mins a day....
louis
Racebred said:
i have to type quickly coz i'm trying to limit my forum time to 30 mins a day now....
anyway, just read through my sales agreement, PML has made provisions in case of an increase in additional charges, including but not limited to custom taxes, PARF and all that.... provision being that any increase will be borne by the customer.... nice eh? look at your sales agreement, under ADDITIONAL CHARGES AND FEES
no mention abt what happens in case of a decrease in tax, so i guess i'm at their mercy now.
louis
emiffy said:
i know u're right, but it's just in my nature to go through life as though i have a stick up my ass... i'm trying to learn to chill though..... breathe and count to 10 right?
1...2...3...4...dun stress, dun stress....5....6...7....8...9...10.... ah.....
so can i ask why ur nick is emiffy?? reminds me of one of my ex... called herself miffy and had miffy files, miffy stationary, miffy wallets..... u dun happen to have a giant miffy in your car right? :roll:
louis
