playerbanker
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Anyone have ideals driving a imported M3 or 335i with new COE worth it.
Wat are the pros n cons of M3
Cheers
Wat are the pros n cons of M3
Cheers
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Imported M3
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playerbanker
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Re: Imported M3
Yes used imported & reg before in other states.
Isit more worth n cheaper?
japkid;680020 said:
Yes used imported & reg before in other states.
Isit more worth n cheaper?
AC Schnitzer
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Re: Imported M3
If the car is a DCT 08 or earlier, ensure that the DCT software is up to date.
Non updated 08 DCTs has a DCT lag issue. This is fairly obvious as you slow down to 2nd gear speed and getting back on throttle, the DCT unit seems to hesitate/delay shifting from 3rd to 2nd. This delay means no power is available regardless how much throttle input there is. This can be dangerous when turning at a junction if there are oncoming traffic.
Problem is further worsen as you give it 100% throttle, as DCT finally downshifts to 2nd, there will be a sudden surge of power.
The DCT lag issue can be easily resolve by updating the DCT to the latest software. I can't recall the version number but since it is imported, I am not entirely sure if anyone in Singapore is able or willing to update the firmware.
The idle valve is also prone to failing. This is noticeable when your dashboard lights up like a Christmas tree. I am not entirely sure which year model is affected. I seem to have read somewhere that 08 or earlier is common but don't take my word for it. Having said that, my E92 is 08 and I have not had such an issue.
Another thing to take note if the car does come with aftermarket mufflers, ensure that the connecting pipes near the vicinity of the differentials have some form of heat shield. This is not a flaw from BMW but rather an area you do want to look at when buying modified E9X M3s. This applies to all E9X M3.
If the car is a DCT 08 or earlier, ensure that the DCT software is up to date.
Non updated 08 DCTs has a DCT lag issue. This is fairly obvious as you slow down to 2nd gear speed and getting back on throttle, the DCT unit seems to hesitate/delay shifting from 3rd to 2nd. This delay means no power is available regardless how much throttle input there is. This can be dangerous when turning at a junction if there are oncoming traffic.
Problem is further worsen as you give it 100% throttle, as DCT finally downshifts to 2nd, there will be a sudden surge of power.
The DCT lag issue can be easily resolve by updating the DCT to the latest software. I can't recall the version number but since it is imported, I am not entirely sure if anyone in Singapore is able or willing to update the firmware.
The idle valve is also prone to failing. This is noticeable when your dashboard lights up like a Christmas tree. I am not entirely sure which year model is affected. I seem to have read somewhere that 08 or earlier is common but don't take my word for it. Having said that, my E92 is 08 and I have not had such an issue.
Another thing to take note if the car does come with aftermarket mufflers, ensure that the connecting pipes near the vicinity of the differentials have some form of heat shield. This is not a flaw from BMW but rather an area you do want to look at when buying modified E9X M3s. This applies to all E9X M3.
edisonsoul
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Re: Imported M3
The imported M3s look really attractive in terms of pricing (compared to AD); 250k for one (M3 cab) that comes with a 10 year COE? However, I ain't sure how much the depreciation will amount to though? Any bros can shed light on that?
The imported M3s look really attractive in terms of pricing (compared to AD); 250k for one (M3 cab) that comes with a 10 year COE? However, I ain't sure how much the depreciation will amount to though? Any bros can shed light on that?
Re: Imported M3
Software update isn't an issue, prominent workshops like Boss, BVO, J4C can definitely do an update.
Like AC mentioned, the only problem with an import used vehicle (applies to all makes and models) is that we do not know the history of the vehicle prior to its entry into Singapore. However with that being said, depending on the flexibility of the seller, you may also bring it to either a workshop or STA/Vicom to get it checked out.
As for the depreciation, well its kinda hard to put a figure on it. Some say $24k/year whereas some will say $26k/year. Bottom line is that it should not exceed the depre of either a brand new agent (Munich/PML) vehicle or a PI. Reason being, in a way trade off for not knowing the exact details of the history prior to its entry into Singapore. BUT yet again sometimes when buying a local car we may not also know the exact history of it as well.
So, I guess a look at price + condition = reasonable offer?
Software update isn't an issue, prominent workshops like Boss, BVO, J4C can definitely do an update.
Like AC mentioned, the only problem with an import used vehicle (applies to all makes and models) is that we do not know the history of the vehicle prior to its entry into Singapore. However with that being said, depending on the flexibility of the seller, you may also bring it to either a workshop or STA/Vicom to get it checked out.
As for the depreciation, well its kinda hard to put a figure on it. Some say $24k/year whereas some will say $26k/year. Bottom line is that it should not exceed the depre of either a brand new agent (Munich/PML) vehicle or a PI. Reason being, in a way trade off for not knowing the exact details of the history prior to its entry into Singapore. BUT yet again sometimes when buying a local car we may not also know the exact history of it as well.
So, I guess a look at price + condition = reasonable offer?
edisonsoul
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Re: Imported M3
Thanks for the clarifications bro! Sounds pretty reasonable to me at the price point. Any bros can share the possible downsides of getting a 2 to 3 year old M3? Seems to me bimmers ain't that durable, with parts often falling off after the stipulated 3 year warranty period (I had several issues with my e90 in my first year!). Would the maintenance costs be high with the M3 family then? Thanks! (Apologies to the TS for gatecrashing your thread!)
Thanks for the clarifications bro! Sounds pretty reasonable to me at the price point. Any bros can share the possible downsides of getting a 2 to 3 year old M3? Seems to me bimmers ain't that durable, with parts often falling off after the stipulated 3 year warranty period (I had several issues with my e90 in my first year!). Would the maintenance costs be high with the M3 family then? Thanks! (Apologies to the TS for gatecrashing your thread!)
Re: Imported M3
My car is close to 2 years old now, no major issues worth mentioning about. The only problem I had then was not a manufacturing or wear and tear issue.
I guess with regular maintenance the car should run fine.
I remember back in the E46 era, the M3s and possibly 330s were built in Germany and they were the more "durable" models as compared to some that were made in South Africa if I remember correctly. I cannot say for sure that the current M3 is a more durable car compared to your E90 but chances are that it is possibly.
Downsides to getting a 2-3 year old M3? You would be comparing to getting brand new or?
My car is close to 2 years old now, no major issues worth mentioning about. The only problem I had then was not a manufacturing or wear and tear issue.
I guess with regular maintenance the car should run fine.
I remember back in the E46 era, the M3s and possibly 330s were built in Germany and they were the more "durable" models as compared to some that were made in South Africa if I remember correctly. I cannot say for sure that the current M3 is a more durable car compared to your E90 but chances are that it is possibly.
Downsides to getting a 2-3 year old M3? You would be comparing to getting brand new or?
playerbanker
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Re: Imported M3
Hi! care to clarify more, u mean those less then 2 years & current models are made in south africa ?
rex7_vtec;681101 said:
Hi! care to clarify more, u mean those less then 2 years & current models are made in south africa ?
Re: Imported M3
Oops I was referring to the E46s whereby the E46 M3s and possibly the 330s then were made in germany and the rest of the models assembled in South Africa.
So far to my personal knowledge all Ms are made in Germany in the M factory
playerbanker;681121 said:
Oops I was referring to the E46s whereby the E46 M3s and possibly the 330s then were made in germany and the rest of the models assembled in South Africa.
So far to my personal knowledge all Ms are made in Germany in the M factory
edisonsoul
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Re: Imported M3
Thanks for the sharing bro. Yes I was referring to the downsides compared to getting a new M from the folks at Munich. The price differential is pretty significant if I were to compare the two (import old vs AD new), even if they ain't exactly an apple to apple comparison.
rex7_vtec;681101 said:
Thanks for the sharing bro. Yes I was referring to the downsides compared to getting a new M from the folks at Munich. The price differential is pretty significant if I were to compare the two (import old vs AD new), even if they ain't exactly an apple to apple comparison.
Re: Imported M3
yup, as far as i know, M is produced in Germany....the more common lines are produced in countries such as South Africa and even US for some of the overseas domestic markets
rex7_vtec;681126 said:Oops I was referring to the E46s whereby the E46 M3s and possibly the 330s then were made in germany and the rest of the models assembled in South Africa.
So far to my personal knowledge all Ms are made in Germany in the M factory
yup, as far as i know, M is produced in Germany....the more common lines are produced in countries such as South Africa and even US for some of the overseas domestic markets
playerbanker
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Re: Imported M3
Hey MW, where can I get this bottle ? Is it a real one ?
MW;681212 said:
Hey MW, where can I get this bottle ? Is it a real one ?
Re: Imported M3
Not in Singapore but you can order:-
Shazaam: Everfresh Oil Deodorizer - New Car Smell - 1Qt [SBM209] - Oil Based Deodorants - Deodorizers & Disinfectants
or
New Car Smell Spray Sell a Car Faster - Fragrance Sprays: New Car smell, Fresh Bread, Coffee, Chocolate, Cinnamon
playerbanker;681247 said:
Not in Singapore but you can order:-
Shazaam: Everfresh Oil Deodorizer - New Car Smell - 1Qt [SBM209] - Oil Based Deodorants - Deodorizers & Disinfectants
or
New Car Smell Spray Sell a Car Faster - Fragrance Sprays: New Car smell, Fresh Bread, Coffee, Chocolate, Cinnamon
playerbanker
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Re: Imported M3
Any webite to order ? Dun really get Wat u mean in your post .
Cheers
MW;681267 said:
Any webite to order ? Dun really get Wat u mean in your post .
Cheers
