Patching a RFT HELP!

[mercuryz]

Hi Guys,

A screw went into my RFT tyre yesterday and now I am trying to find a shop that can patch a RFT that is hopefully open on a Sunday.

Stamford tyres will do it but using the regular plug in method. After reading several post it seems that the best method for RFT is repairing it internally.

If you guys got any recommendations on who can do this please let me know, Autobacs will repair it internally for 45 bucks but there is a 2 - 3 hour queue.

Thanks!
Merc

 

[ah seng]

Re: Patching a RFT HELP!

Hi bro, I am new here but i had been repairing my car Tyre internally. U can do it at the PIE exit Steven road , beside there is a tyre shop. there can do.
For my previous ride, I always go amk industrial park for Tyre maintenance. The direct address i will help you look out if you really need it.
For BMW cars, i am still looking for some experts for Tyre maintenance. Any one can recommend?

 

[ah seng]

Re: Patching a RFT HELP!

Hi guys, I don't really know stuff with Tyre. What is the differences between Run flat Tyres and normal one?

 

[detach8]

Re: Patching a RFT HELP!

run flat means... tyre flat still can run.

normal means... tyre flat no horse run.

 

[ah seng]

Re: Patching a RFT HELP!

Thanks....

 

[mercuryz]

Re: Patching a RFT HELP!

Just sharing my experiences after fixing my RFT,
So Sunday tyre punctured (Not side wall) rush down to Stamford to patch but the technician told me cannot patch up, even remove from the Rim will rupture the tyre. I suspected this was a push for me to buy new ones from them but they only have conti brand no Bridgestone so went in search for another shop.
Interestingly I ran into another Mini owner at Stamford who had a punctured RFT too and her experience was the plug in method which is what they normally do is not the best and you will need to top up the air every 2 weeks.

So I finally a found a shop open on a Sunday that can patch up the tyre internally after going around. For those Sua Ku like me I’ll explain the process and why patching the RFT can be dangerous.

- First the chap will remove the tyre from the Rim, this has to be done carefully as RFT and thick sidewalls and you do not want to risk damaging the sidewall upon removal. Require lots of lubricant

- The puncture will be located and the he will grind part of the internal tyre surface slap some glue and apply a patch, the chap was explaining to me that when the tyre was punctured the sidewall was holding up the car and hence part of the sidewall had weakened (can see where deep grooves have formed along the wall). This will compromise the tyre especially if doing hard cornering. My tyre was maybe 10% impacted so still not too bad but he advised me to change if I am the drive fast type.
- So the patch method ensures no leak, after that remount on the rim pump air and presto

So in case you guys ever have a light up on loss of tyre pressure, immediately go to the petrol store and pump the right pressure then rush down to get it patched. This way your sidewall will suffer minimal damage.

Hope my experience helped anyone out there, also the owner request that I do not share out his shop details. Have to respect his wishes sorry…

 

[mercuryz]

Re: Patching a RFT HELP!

Also I am thinking of swapping two of my RFT with normal tyres and swapping the other two at a later date, anyone has any experience in this area? Any side effects I should be concerned about?

 

[roberttan]

Re: Patching a RFT HELP!

Congrat to Mr MercuryZ you had found a pro to service your tyre especially the runflat tyre.
This Pro Chap had done a great job (proper job) and he is even BOTHER to explain to you how the repair is carry out,and lastly he has highlighted to you about the sidewall demaged cause by runflat(it happen to all tyre too). that is why is VERY IMPORTANT to have your tyre patch internally thus your punctured tyre can be inspected internally for any DEMAGED internally which cant be seen from outside.
Any hidden demaged could leak to SUDDEN tyre failure especially at high speed.
Most drivers are not able to control you car in the even of sudden tyre failure especially the REAR wheel

Seriously speaking BMW does not allow repair of runflat tyre (written on your runflat tyre sidewall)
SO those workshops outside is very kind to help you fix your puncture to save you from replacing new one,but that is also provided proper repair is carry out.
Stamford Guys is not wrong to highlight you the possible sidewall rupture when removing the tyre from rim especially the runflat tyre,that is the mian reason WHY most tyre shop refused to carry out INTERNAL repair.
Replacing NEW tyre is LOT more easier than repair a tyre internally.
1 last thing to share NO repaired is 100% perfect, if it can achieved 99.99 % is VERY GOOD
consult the pro about the limitation of tyre repair (anything punctured near sidewall or sidewall throw away your tyre)

 

[roberttan]

Re: Patching a RFT HELP!

Also I am thinking of swapping two of my RFT with normal tyres and swapping the other two at a later date, anyone has any experience in this area? Any side effects I should be concerned about?

Please do not mix the tyres this way
If you want do all 4 at 1 shot

 

[mercuryz]

Re: Patching a RFT HELP!

Congrat to Mr MercuryZ you had found a pro to service your tyre especially the runflat tyre.
This Pro Chap had done a great job (proper job) and he is even BOTHER to explain to you how the repair is carry out,and lastly he has highlighted to you about the sidewall demaged cause by runflat(it happen to all tyre too). that is why is VERY IMPORTANT to have your tyre patch internally thus your punctured tyre can be inspected internally for any DEMAGED internally which cant be seen from outside.
Any hidden demaged could leak to SUDDEN tyre failure especially at high speed.
Most drivers are not able to control you car in the even of sudden tyre failure especially the REAR wheel

Seriously speaking BMW does not allow repair of runflat tyre (written on your runflat tyre sidewall)
SO those workshops outside is very kind to help you fix your puncture to save you from replacing new one,but that is also provided proper repair is carry out.
Stamford Guys is not wrong to highlight you the possible sidewall rupture when removing the tyre from rim especially the runflat tyre,that is the mian reason WHY most tyre shop refused to carry out INTERNAL repair.
Replacing NEW tyre is LOT more easier than repair a tyre internally.
1 last thing to share NO repaired is 100% perfect, if it can achieved 99.99 % is VERY GOOD
consult the pro about the limitation of tyre repair (anything punctured near sidewall or sidewall throw away your tyre)

Thanks for the above,

One reason why I posted what I did is also for the benefit of other members to know whats up with the whole RFT scene, I tried to find the information on the forum before (not available) and was totally unaware until the shop owner explain it to me. Anyway hope the above information helps someone else in future.

Anyway I intend to replace the tyre, patching it just gives me more time for the shop owner to source a RFT Bridgetone to replace this one.

 

[rathoras]

Re: Patching a RFT HELP!

Just sharing my experiences after fixing my RFT,
So Sunday tyre punctured (Not side wall) rush down to Stamford to patch but the technician told me cannot patch up, even remove from the Rim will rupture the tyre. I suspected this was a push for me to buy new ones from them but they only have conti brand no Bridgestone so went in search for another shop.
Interestingly I ran into another Mini owner at Stamford who had a punctured RFT too and her experience was the plug in method which is what they normally do is not the best and you will need to top up the air every 2 weeks.

So I finally a found a shop open on a Sunday that can patch up the tyre internally after going around. For those Sua Ku like me I’ll explain the process and why patching the RFT can be dangerous.

- First the chap will remove the tyre from the Rim, this has to be done carefully as RFT and thick sidewalls and you do not want to risk damaging the sidewall upon removal. Require lots of lubricant

- The puncture will be located and the he will grind part of the internal tyre surface slap some glue and apply a patch, the chap was explaining to me that when the tyre was punctured the sidewall was holding up the car and hence part of the sidewall had weakened (can see where deep grooves have formed along the wall). This will compromise the tyre especially if doing hard cornering. My tyre was maybe 10% impacted so still not too bad but he advised me to change if I am the drive fast type.
- So the patch method ensures no leak, after that remount on the rim pump air and presto

So in case you guys ever have a light up on loss of tyre pressure, immediately go to the petrol store and pump the right pressure then rush down to get it patched. This way your sidewall will suffer minimal damage.

Hope my experience helped anyone out there, also the owner request that I do not share out his shop details. Have to respect his wishes sorry…

so which tyre shop is open for RFT repairs on a sunday - good to know!

 

[ktnpl]

Re: Patching a RFT HELP!

Just to share my experience too. I have repaired my RFT using the normal plug-in method for $8 and so far there is no leak after several months. For my case, the puncture is not near the side wall. I still think RFT is better as it should give you more control when there is a sudden rupture.

 

[roberttan]

Re: Patching a RFT HELP!

Just to share my experience too. I have repaired my RFT using the normal plug-in method for $8 and so far there is no leak after several months. For my case, the puncture is not near the side wall. I still think RFT is better as it should give you more control when there is a sudden rupture.

they are still many tyre like yours used plug in method, but some of them the the plug in method tyre failed immediately or few weeks later was not reported here.
SO you are 1 of those Lucky chap
As far as tyre company is concerned.
Internal tyre repaired is not just have the hole sealed.
Only tyre removed from rim can have a internal check for any hidden demaged.

 

[New5]

Re: Patching a RFT HELP!

Thanks for sharing....great info....your RFT had indeed helped you after it was punctured....it does allow you to go around to look for a tyre shop and need not call for a tow truck.....and that's the whole purpose of RFT technology! If you intend to change all to normal tyres, get a sealant air pump in your boot as we dont have spare tyres. This will help pump up yr normal tyre when it is deflated and bring you to the nearest tyre shop...similar to RFT. Fyi, I had came across an overseas company doing research for a space saver tyre for BMW car. It is still on trial but soon it will hit the market...then it will be good for those on normal tyres....cheers!

 

[C3P0]

Re: Patching a RFT HELP!

so which tyre shop is open for RFT repairs on a sunday - good to know!

Shell station near Holiday Inn Attrium (Ganges Ave/Havelock Road).

 

[mercuryz]

Re: Patching a RFT HELP!

they are still many tyre like yours used plug in method, but some of them the the plug in method tyre failed immediately or few weeks later was not reported here.
SO you are 1 of those Lucky chap
As far as tyre company is concerned.
Internal tyre repaired is not just have the hole sealed.
Only tyre removed from rim can have a internal check for any hidden demaged.

Agreed, especially the important bit is to know how much damage the sidewall had taken. I was shown a tire where the sidewall had completely blown (3 quarters of the wheel).

Important thing also is make sure you look at your RFT if you had them repaired, if you notice the sidewall bulging its the sign that the sidewall is giving. Get it replaced asap, also drive slow

 

[roberttan]

Re: Patching a RFT HELP!

Agreed, especially the important bit is to know how much damage the sidewall had taken. I was shown a tire where the sidewall had completely blown (3 quarters of the wheel).

Important thing also is make sure you look at your RFT if you had them repaired, if you notice the sidewall bulging its the sign that the sidewall is giving. Get it replaced asap, also drive slow

that Tyre shop had done a Professional repair job for you
A responsible / professional shop should ensure your safety above everything.
It means the repaired tyre must be done internally and check for internal condition to make sure the repaired tyre is 99.99% safe to put back on service

 

[roberttan]

Re: Patching a RFT HELP!

Agreed, especially the important bit is to know how much damage the sidewall had taken. I was shown a tire where the sidewall had completely blown (3 quarters of the wheel).

Important thing also is make sure you look at your RFT if you had them repaired, if you notice the sidewall bulging its the sign that the sidewall is giving. Get it replaced asap, also drive slow

the tyre shop done a good and professional job
A responsible / professional shop should do only internal hole repair and do a cjeck internally see got any internal demaged before the repair .
A Professional and resiponsible shop must ensure your punctured tyre is properly repaired and examined before the tyre back to service.
Safety above everytihng is a MUST