Play fair or play to your advantage?? Admins.... please comment

Re: Play fair or play to your advantage?? Admins.... please comment

Quiet down guys.
no use arguing, let the admin do their jobs.
they can ban me too if they have investigated n deemed that I done any wrong.

am just very worn out by the stupid trolling, arguing.
yes, I was hot too with stupid troll over at sgcarmart n I apologise for that.

any of u noticed more members been posting since this afternoon?
am actually happy to see that happening.
we could all do with a more friendly environment here, less flaming, less arguments, more caring n sharing.
 
Re: Play fair or play to your advantage?? Admins.... please comment

My 2 cents..

I am not either party's personal friend. Yes I have bought stuff from Bimshop b4, but if I were to walk in now he would probably not know who I am.

Reading sszone's post over and over again, there is nothing to suggest that J's magic is selling inferior products, or am lying or cheating to get business.

The only party that has a negative reputation is the seller of the bodykit, who misrepresented and tried to sell a replica product at authentic pricings. This is outright cheating.

I believe that sszone made the posting as a warning to bmwsg folks in the capacity of a forumer, not as a site vendor.

Nevertheless, I have never agreed with the forum guidelines of not naming a workshop. A forum is set up to share, be it good or bad. Good workshops should be praised, negative ones avoided. However, I understand the need to protect the commercial vendors here who pay to advertise.

End of the day, this is just a simple issue. Why get so worked up? Take a deep breath, one step back and look at the entire issue again. 6 months down the road, you will find this situation hilarious.

Before I end, just wanna put out the disclaimer that again, I don't have anything to gain by speaking out for sszone. Neither I am eyeing something in his shop and want to seek a discount. Just find this whole situation ridiculous, and some sense should prevail.
 
Re: Play fair or play to your advantage?? Admins.... please comment

ok.... in closing... here are my findings which have made me emotional recently....



sszone;988154 said:
1) Bro Sprawler - Victim 1

Seller was claiming that he was selling a original Msports kit from MA and he could even produce MA invoices.
As i was working to dekit the lights he got from me, i noticed the kit looked like its from J's magic which i asked him and he confirmed it.
Coincidentally, Bro Centurion9990 received a sms from this seller that claims its MA kit which i advised him not to get as i had doubts abt the authenticity of it.

Unfortunately, Bro Sprawler bought it and at J magic, he discovered its indeed a kit from them and not MA as claimed. Story's pretty complicated with police reports made by the seller against Bro Sprawler for harassment (ya rite, fake address then MIA, then sprawler finds him, he call cops say sprawler harass him). Luckily, the IO heard Bro Sprawler's case and have launched further investigations.

Seller in the end refunded him and gave his kit to him to shut him up.

J's magic name quoted...

sszone;988154 said:
2) Bro Hengster - Victim 2

Bro Hengster got the exos from the seller.
Seller claims its eissenman sports, legal and got cert so closed the deal.
so after a month of father hospitalised, going overseas to work and numerous appt to meet at VICOM, seller never turned up and there was no cert.
to rub salt into the wound, Bro Hengster earlier went with seller to C workshop that sold the exos, the salesman can claim invoice which stated Eissenman Race was a typo, and that it was sports.

Bro Hengster after many visits to LTA, managed to get LTA to confirm, that exos was indeed a Race and there was never any record of it in LTA records.

who is C workshop? name and shame la....isn't C workshop in cahoots with seller to 'pretend' that the exhaust sold was an eisenmann sport exhaust instead of eisenmann RACE??? name.... please name... I confirm will avoid such unscrupulous vendor.

why the inconsistencies?? first para named a rival sponsor.... next paragraph describing another workshop... use code...

btw....bimshop sells spoilers.... so does J's magic.... so the conspiracy theories.... OMG!!! and the plot thickens

what so 'unfortunate' about having bought a j's magic derived product? what can someone of normal intellect derive / infer from this statement? so what if they aren't authentic OEM BMW m sport / m performance (or whatever the official name is), does it mean that those bodykits CMI??

I thank bimshop, sprawler and hengster for contributing and post their thoughts in the fraud case post... for sharing these experiences.

I fully wholeheartedly agree with everyone that the seller had full intentions to deceive buyers.... then name and shame him then?!! why use acronym? 'XP...?? excuse my language but who the F is XP??

I have no affiliations with j's magic nor any site sponsors here.... but for 1 site sponsor to name another site sponsor in his post in such light seriously casts wrong PR light on the receiver.... hence the title of this post... wanna play fair, post fair.

why didn't sprawler do further research on the kits before buying? I'm sure original kits have some sticker pasted on the inside to authenticate?

yes, sure the bodykit failed his criteria.... cos.. he thought he was buying a real BMW m sport bodykit but ended up with a 'replica'...so he buay song.

eventually what happened to that bodykit?
was it installed on sprawler's car?
is sprawler happy with the kit (if its installed)?
 
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Re: Play fair or play to your advantage?? Admins.... please comment

Since J's Magic have no issues with this - why are you so concerned ?

Are you alluding this forum lacks moderation or are you saying J's Magic should not let this slide ?

jasonmaxima;991580 said:
ok.... in closing... here are my findings which have made me emotional recently....





J's magic name quoted...



who is C workshop? name and shame la....isn't C workshop in cahoots with seller to 'pretend' that the exhaust sold was an eisenmann sport exhaust instead of eisenmann RACE??? name.... please name... I confirm will avoid such unscrupulous vendor.

why the inconsistencies?? first para named a rival sponsor.... next paragraph describing another workshop... use code...

btw....bimshop sells spoilers.... so does J's magic.... so the conspiracy theories.... OMG!!! and the plot thickens

what so 'unfortunate' about having bought a j's magic derived product? what can someone of normal intellect derive / infer from this statement? so what if they aren't authentic OEM BMW m sport / m performance (or whatever the official name is), does it mean that those bodykits CMI??

I thank bimshop, sprawler and hengster for contributing and post their thoughts in the fraud case post... for sharing these experiences.

I fully wholeheartedly agree with everyone that the seller had full intentions to deceive buyers.... then name and shame him then?!! why use acronym? 'XP...?? excuse my language but who the F is XP??

I have no affiliations with j's magic nor any site sponsors here.... but for 1 site sponsor to name another site sponsor in his post in such light seriously casts wrong PR light on the receiver.... hence the title of this post... wanna play fair, post fair.

why didn't sprawler do further research on the kits before buying? I'm sure original kits have some sticker pasted on the inside to authenticate?

yes, sure the bodykit failed his criteria.... cos.. he thought he was buying a real BMW m sport bodykit but ended up with a 'replica'...so he buay song.

eventually what happened to that bodykit?
was it installed on sprawler's car?
is sprawler happy with the kit (if its installed)?
 
Re: Play fair or play to your advantage?? Admins.... please comment

Red_Bean_Bun;991595 said:
Since J's Magic have no issues with this - why are you so concerned ?

Are you alluding this forum lacks moderation or are you saying J's Magic should not let this slide ?

perhaps the moderators should answer / handle this....

to recycle what was posted recently....

tofumonkey;990812 said:
Hi all,

With immediate effect, we're implementing a no-notification 3 day, 7 day and permanent bans on members who flout our rules.

http://www.bmw-sg.com/forums/forum-...ons/3724-bmw-sg-forum-policy-please-read.html
Rules too much to read? - Be friendly, helpful and don't be a troll.

If you have an anger problem, I suggest you seek help and take it out of the forums.

Baby1M;990856 said:
:thumbsup:


No posting of PML / shop / workshop names
As defamation cases have occurred on the internet before, we request that all customers do not post shop names on the internet.

Different persons may have differing experiences with certain shops for different reasons. Some may be good while others may be bad. As BMW.SG is not able to verify your experiences with specific shops & their products/services offered, kindly refrain from posting shop or any references which may identify these shops / products.

We reserves the right to edit / delete posts which which are in breach of this rule at its absolute discretion, and shall not be obliged to offer any explanation for its actions.
 
Re: Play fair or play to your advantage?? Admins.... please comment

jasonmaxima;991580 said:
ok.... in closing... here are my findings which have made me emotional recently....





J's magic name quoted...



who is C workshop? name and shame la....isn't C workshop in cahoots with seller to 'pretend' that the exhaust sold was an eisenmann sport exhaust instead of eisenmann RACE??? name.... please name... I confirm will avoid such unscrupulous vendor.

why the inconsistencies?? first para named a rival sponsor.... next paragraph describing another workshop... use code...

btw....bimshop sells spoilers.... so does J's magic.... so the conspiracy theories.... OMG!!! and the plot thickens

what so 'unfortunate' about having bought a j's magic derived product? what can someone of normal intellect derive / infer from this statement? so what if they aren't authentic OEM BMW m sport / m performance (or whatever the official name is), does it mean that those bodykits CMI??

I thank bimshop, sprawler and hengster for contributing and post their thoughts in the fraud case post... for sharing these experiences.

I fully wholeheartedly agree with everyone that the seller had full intentions to deceive buyers.... then name and shame him then?!! why use acronym? 'XP...?? excuse my language but who the F is XP??

I have no affiliations with j's magic nor any site sponsors here.... but for 1 site sponsor to name another site sponsor in his post in such light seriously casts wrong PR light on the receiver.... hence the title of this post... wanna play fair, post fair.

why didn't sprawler do further research on the kits before buying? I'm sure original kits have some sticker pasted on the inside to authenticate?

yes, sure the bodykit failed his criteria.... cos.. he thought he was buying a real BMW m sport bodykit but ended up with a 'replica'...so he buay song.

eventually what happened to that bodykit?
was it installed on sprawler's car?
is sprawler happy with the kit (if its installed)?

Jason, thanks for this clarification. I see your point and understand why you were perturbed.
 
Re: Play fair or play to your advantage?? Admins.... please comment

pengful;991627 said:
Jason, thanks for this clarification. I see your point and understand why you were perturbed.

AMEN (10 char)
 
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jasonmaxima;991673 said:
AMEN (10 char)

My personal view, i feel that BMW SG is too commercial.

And I feel you Jasonmaxima.
 
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OldMasterQ;991699 said:
My personal view, i feel that BMW SG is too commercial.

And I feel you Jasonmaxima.

Bro, you feel Maximizer or you feel FOR Maximizer?

The latter means you understand Jason's position.







The former means you are a man-molester. :lol2:

/teacher wobbles says 'class dismissed'
 
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wobbles;991709 said:
Bro, you feel Maximizer or you feel FOR Maximizer?

The latter means you understand Jason's position.








The former means you are a man-molester. :lol2:

/teacher wobbles says 'class dismissed'

Argh.....I feel FOR...

I just subscribed FOR englit course, britit counsil.....
 
Re: Play fair or play to your advantage?? Admins.... please comment

The reasons why we disallowed posting company names are a few reasons stated over at this link - http://www.bmw-sg.com/forums/forum-...te-commercial-entities-negative-feedback.html

If you can put yourself in a business-owners' POV and have things blown out of proportion not because of your own fault, you'd understand. Unless you've been through a few letters of demand issued to you personally, running this site as an admin, you would know why we put up these requirements.

Anyway - good to stay out of the discussion unless one has something constructive to add.

hellrace;991125 said:
My 2 cents..

I am not either party's personal friend. Yes I have bought stuff from Bimshop b4, but if I were to walk in now he would probably not know who I am.

Reading sszone's post over and over again, there is nothing to suggest that J's magic is selling inferior products, or am lying or cheating to get business.

The only party that has a negative reputation is the seller of the bodykit, who misrepresented and tried to sell a replica product at authentic pricings. This is outright cheating.

I believe that sszone made the posting as a warning to bmwsg folks in the capacity of a forumer, not as a site vendor.

Nevertheless, I have never agreed with the forum guidelines of not naming a workshop. A forum is set up to share, be it good or bad. Good workshops should be praised, negative ones avoided. However, I understand the need to protect the commercial vendors here who pay to advertise.

End of the day, this is just a simple issue. Why get so worked up? Take a deep breath, one step back and look at the entire issue again. 6 months down the road, you will find this situation hilarious.

Before I end, just wanna put out the disclaimer that again, I don't have anything to gain by speaking out for sszone. Neither I am eyeing something in his shop and want to seek a discount. Just find this whole situation ridiculous, and some sense should prevail.
 
Re: Play fair or play to your advantage?? Admins.... please comment

hi Ryan

Long time No see, this year got BMW D&D?
 
Re: Play fair or play to your advantage?? Admins.... please comment

I'm quite unpopular right now so I probably can't answer you at this time :)

iScoupe;991719 said:
hi Ryan

Long time No see, this year got BMW D&D?
 
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SLK69;991741 said:
I organize...I very popular eh....forum or black market
CB all becos of u la....
 
Re: Play fair or play to your advantage?? Admins.... please comment

Got add new mods or not , wobbles?
 
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dash;992014 said:
Got add new mods or not , wobbles?

Bro Dash! No mood to mod. Liverpool finished below Everton. Half suicidal liao...... *sob*
 
Re: Play fair or play to your advantage?? Admins.... please comment

Come on..come on....
On the bright side..u no need to wake up in the middle of the night next season.
Unlike me....haizzzz....every Tuesday or Wednesday needs to.
Dam siong .
 
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jonleeck;992023 said:
Come on..come on....
On the bright side..u no need to wake up in the middle of the night next season.
Unlike me....haizzzz....every Tuesday or Wednesday needs to.
Dam siong .

Basket..ball. I hope next season, @ the CL, ManU scores many many .....












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