Proposed ministerial pay formula "flawed": Workers' Party

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The Workers' Party (WP) said the recommendations of the Committee to Review Ministerial Salaries are a step in the right direction towards grounding political leaders with a stronger sense of public service and mission.

It hopes Ministers and MPs will see political office primarily as a noble undertaking which allows them to improve the lives of fellow Singaporeans, rather than as a career option to be weighed against high-earning individuals in the private sector.

However, it said the Committee's proposal to peg ministers' salaries to the 1,000 top income earners has created a flawed formula.

It said these individuals make up just 0.06 per cent of the workforce and are unrepresentative of the general population.

The incomes of these "super-rich" Singaporeans generally rise much faster than the rest of the population, potentially escalating the salaries of ministers in subsequent years.

Rather than an approach that assumes top earners are also top talent, WP recommends a whole-of-government, people-up approach to determining ministerial salaries.

The WP said it identified this approach in the way 12 developed economies determine their politicians' salaries.

The economies are Australia, Canada, Finland, Germany, Hong Kong, Japan, South Korea, New Zealand, Sweden, Taiwan, the United Kingdom and the United States.

In most of these economies, a minister's salary is set at multiples of that of an MP, which is in turn set at the salary of a senior management grade in the civil service.

This is the approach Singapore should take, as political office is in the genre of public service, said the WP.

The WP proposed that MPs' allowances be pegged to the salaries of divisional directors in the civil service excluding the Administrative Service.

Civil service salaries are currently competitively bench-marked to general wage levels of Singaporeans.

The salaries of ministers and the Prime Minister should be set at reasonable multiples of an MP's allowance, said the WP.

The opposition party said that it is supportive of a variable component which accounts for both national objectives achieved through a whole-of-government effort, as well as the individual performance of ministers.

While the suggested National Bonus incorporates some indices, the WP said the formula should reflect that some national goals are longer-term in nature, requiring an assessment over the term of a government and not annually, while some bonus payments may also need to be deferred.

The WP also proposed doing away with the Annual Variable Component, saying that this is unnecessary since there is already a National Bonus based on national economic outcomes.

It said the sum of the total variable components should be capped at a reasonable number of months.

The WP also believes that the procedure for any review or change of the salary structure for political office should be transparent and subject to parliamentary approval.

The opposition party said its MPs will expand on the above proposals when Parliament debates on the motion to adopt the Committee's recommendations on 16 January.
 
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Re: Proposed ministerial pay formula "flawed": Workers' Party

WP worth reading
NSP worth a reading
SDP i totally dun read.....hahaha
 
Re: Proposed ministerial pay formula "flawed": Workers' Party

parliament debate will be exciting :D

cut too much (living standard affected) vs cut too little (still the highest paid in the world)
 
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President's pay needs further cuts, I think
 
Re: Proposed ministerial pay formula "flawed": Workers' Party

Instead of justifying high ministerial pays with reasons like fear of talent drain and corruption, how about pegging it to median income of Singaporeans with heavier weightage to the lower cohort?
 
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speaker of parliament drop to $550K (53% cut), he must be the most dulan person in the room during debate and cannot voice out somemore ... hehe :D
 
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Err... maybe I should go approach my boss to peg my pay to the minister .... :D
 
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wt_know;727727 said:
speaker of parliament drop to $550K (53% cut), he must be the most dulan person in the room during debate and cannot voice out somemore ... hehe :D

Watched the Q&A session on CNA... Gerrard Ee said Speaker will still get his MP allowance... Additional hor... So $550k is extra :naughty: But MPs with multiply portfolios will only get one salary...
 
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best part time job? :D

Centurion9990;727734 said:
Watched the Q&A session on CNA... Gerrard Ee said Speaker will still get his MP allowance... Additional hor... So $550k is extra :naughty: But MPs with multiply portfolios will only get one salary...
 
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sandman369;727721 said:
President's pay needs further cuts, I think

Bro I president no need PAY!!
 
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Centurion9990;727734 said:
Watched the Q&A session on CNA... Gerrard Ee said Speaker will still get his MP allowance... Additional hor... So $550k is extra :naughty: But MPs with multiply portfolios will only get one salary...

Speaker only gets 550k and its more than half cut. So all these years speaker have been getting millions!!!! WTF!!
 
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u will have to make alot of sacrifices then with no pay.....the standard of living of your family might drop.....u might only have half-f*** halogen AE eyes, stock kit, stock rims and no extra cash to upgrade to F10 or 6 series gran coupe. ah fu said one.....haha
 
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John74;727788 said:
Speaker only gets 550k and its more than half cut. So all these years speaker have been getting millions!!!! WTF!!

eh so one word from his golden mouth cost how much ah??
 
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sszone;727789 said:
u will have to make alot of sacrifices then with no pay.....the standard of living of your family might drop.....u might only have half-f*** halogen AE eyes, stock kit, stock rims and no extra cash to upgrade to F10 or 6 series gran coupe. ah fu said one.....haha

Bro I don't make millions a year.. I got no standant of living at all... Sob sob..
 
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sszone;727791 said:
eh so one word from his golden mouth cost how much ah??

actually what is the role of the speaker? on tv, it seems to discribe him as the person sitting in at parliments ensuring everything is in order?? if that is true, we have been paying someone to keep law & order during parliments (once a month??) 1 mil++ per year????

What other roles are we paying millions to do nothing??

People can be unhappy with the president's pay etc etc but at least i see him attending functions etc etc..speaker = show face once a month? WTFF
 
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He is like a class monitor and PR man to other parliaments in the world.

In short...cho boh lan
 
Re: Proposed ministerial pay formula "flawed": Workers' Party

How about ministers of the prime minister's office? What is it exactly they do? Does an office needs a minister? Or how about a minister without portfolio? Does that mean we can be GMs, MDs, CEOs of companies without actually being in any company?
 
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jawzsg;727733 said:
Err... maybe I should go approach my boss to peg my pay to the minister .... :D

Just tell your boss you wanna be a worker without any job scope (portfolio) but stil wanna be paid highly. Alternatively, you can also tell him you wanna be a boss within his office.
 
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Alexxx;727920 said:
actually what is the role of the speaker? on tv, it seems to discribe him as the person sitting in at parliments ensuring everything is in order?? if that is true, we have been paying someone to keep law & order during parliments (once a month??) 1 mil++ per year????

What other roles are we paying millions to do nothing??

People can be unhappy with the president's pay etc etc but at least i see him attending functions etc etc..speaker = show face once a month? WTFF

i tot can hire cisco guards to ensure law n order liao.
our parliament not so hiong like taiwan or korean.....won't get to see blue shirts whacking white shirts, throw chairs etc.
 
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