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questions about buying new e90
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centurion
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Re: questions about buying new e90
talk about boring stuff like omv aside, a BMW has to be at least 6 cylinders. THis is not tradition - just that the germans cannot make a 4 cylinder as good as Honda, and for today's standards the 4-cylinder is below par in smoothness and performance.
the 6 cylinders' natural harmonics make them smoother than the 4 cylinders. and more pleasant sounding too.
talk about boring stuff like omv aside, a BMW has to be at least 6 cylinders. THis is not tradition - just that the germans cannot make a 4 cylinder as good as Honda, and for today's standards the 4-cylinder is below par in smoothness and performance.
the 6 cylinders' natural harmonics make them smoother than the 4 cylinders. and more pleasant sounding too.
Re: questions about buying new e90
last known price for e90 (2 weeks ago) was 124k for 320i-new and 130k for 320i-professional. perhaps u can try asking pml for latest price? dun use the listed price. bo pakai one.
today, a used car dealer told me 320i is only 120k. dunno he pulling my leg or wat.
last known price for e90 (2 weeks ago) was 124k for 320i-new and 130k for 320i-professional. perhaps u can try asking pml for latest price? dun use the listed price. bo pakai one.
today, a used car dealer told me 320i is only 120k. dunno he pulling my leg or wat.
Newcastle
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Re: questions about buying new e90
hey arowana1,
given that a new E90 is about $124K, what is the depreciation for first year, second year and third year?
Coz I find some of the prices quoted on sgcarmart a bit unrealistic when compared against expected depreciation.
regards
newcastle
hey arowana1,
given that a new E90 is about $124K, what is the depreciation for first year, second year and third year?
Coz I find some of the prices quoted on sgcarmart a bit unrealistic when compared against expected depreciation.
regards
newcastle
delrosa81
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Re: questions about buying new e90
My advise is something which most ppl would feel that is totally wrong and not something that anyone else should follow. I got myself an E90 320i. I never look at the OMV, etc. I only went for the test drive, my feeling of the car, etc. And also I look at the overall amount for the car, worked out my instalments, roadtax, insurance, maintenance, etc. I made sure it was within my budget before I plonked down my hard earned money for it.
I do not earn tons of money thats why I got a 320 but to be fair to the car, its a good car actually considering the comfort, handling, performance (City driving), etc. Its been a really really nice car. Recently I was involved in a pretty serious accident, thanks to the solid german engineering and build of the car, both my wife and I walked away from it unscathed except for a few bruises. It was declared a total loss as the repair costs were simply too high for it to be repaired economically.
Now Im waiting for the paperwork to be completed while I have booked another E90 320i and also in the same colour. Now waiting impatiently for my case to be closed and also waiting for the delivery of my new E90. Never regret it at all.
If I had the money, I would go for an E90 335i or the E90 M3 which offers practicality and firepower but for now Im satisfied with my 320i.
My advise is something which most ppl would feel that is totally wrong and not something that anyone else should follow. I got myself an E90 320i. I never look at the OMV, etc. I only went for the test drive, my feeling of the car, etc. And also I look at the overall amount for the car, worked out my instalments, roadtax, insurance, maintenance, etc. I made sure it was within my budget before I plonked down my hard earned money for it.
I do not earn tons of money thats why I got a 320 but to be fair to the car, its a good car actually considering the comfort, handling, performance (City driving), etc. Its been a really really nice car. Recently I was involved in a pretty serious accident, thanks to the solid german engineering and build of the car, both my wife and I walked away from it unscathed except for a few bruises. It was declared a total loss as the repair costs were simply too high for it to be repaired economically.
Now Im waiting for the paperwork to be completed while I have booked another E90 320i and also in the same colour. Now waiting impatiently for my case to be closed and also waiting for the delivery of my new E90. Never regret it at all.
If I had the money, I would go for an E90 335i or the E90 M3 which offers practicality and firepower but for now Im satisfied with my 320i.
Re: questions about buying new e90
Newcastle, here are the figures.
Assumptions:
1. COE at 19001
2. OMV at 41000
3. Car scrap at year 10
4. No body value
5. Int on loan not taken into consideration
Dep per year is 10145. sgcarmart prices are ridiculous. you pay higher depreciation compared to the 1st owner cos dealer earn big!!! a few cars that i have been monitoring are with the dealers for the past 3 months already. imagine, 850/mth depreciation and they can still hold for so long.
for a used e90, the price dealer take in seems to point to this formula for 0-2 year old e90:
Dealer Buy Price = Current new e90 - Depreciation - One Year Depreciation
hence for 1 year old e90, assume no premium/penalty for colour and mileage
DBP = 124000 - 10145 - 10145 = $ 103,710
e90 with few months left of warranty is best buy but u take a big risk!
in any case, i wont pay more than the above for 1 year old car. reason being, you save like 10k only for getting a used car. not really much of a savings, esp for a car like bimmer where wear and tear come quite early (4-5th year or 60-80k thereabouts).
if im not mistaken, pml takes in higher if u get another car from them?
Newcastle, here are the figures.
Assumptions:
1. COE at 19001
2. OMV at 41000
3. Car scrap at year 10
4. No body value
5. Int on loan not taken into consideration
Dep per year is 10145. sgcarmart prices are ridiculous. you pay higher depreciation compared to the 1st owner cos dealer earn big!!! a few cars that i have been monitoring are with the dealers for the past 3 months already. imagine, 850/mth depreciation and they can still hold for so long.
for a used e90, the price dealer take in seems to point to this formula for 0-2 year old e90:
Dealer Buy Price = Current new e90 - Depreciation - One Year Depreciation
hence for 1 year old e90, assume no premium/penalty for colour and mileage
DBP = 124000 - 10145 - 10145 = $ 103,710
e90 with few months left of warranty is best buy but u take a big risk!
in any case, i wont pay more than the above for 1 year old car. reason being, you save like 10k only for getting a used car. not really much of a savings, esp for a car like bimmer where wear and tear come quite early (4-5th year or 60-80k thereabouts).
if im not mistaken, pml takes in higher if u get another car from them?
acupunch
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Re: questions about buying new e90
i don't know how long this kind of crap tradition German 4 cylinder is not up to par of Japan 4 cylinder gonna last. it may not be as smooth. but the question is how smooth you want it. you test drive a 2.0L Civic/Accord I don't felt is as smooth har. that's why I bought my 320i. performance wise. out of the factory. 320i win by miles compare to any Honda 2.0. let's not talk abt CTR. cos that it rare. it build for track.centurion;327606 said:
centurion
Well-Known Member
Re: questions about buying new e90
you mentioned performance wise 320 beats Honda 2.0 by miles ... this is an interesting point, so i wanted to compare the numbers of Honda Civic FD vs BMW 320i - but timing for BMW 320i I could find ranges from 8.2s to 9s ... I suspect the 8.2 s is manual. But I couldn't find confirmation. so ask you since you probably did more research than me.acupunch;328279 said:
acupunch
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Re: questions about buying new e90
on paper,
Civic 2.0L 0-100KM/h is 8.6sec. Max power 155 Bhp / 6000 rpm, Max Torque 188 Nm / 4200 rpm
BMW 320i 0-100KM/H is 9.0sec. Max Power 150 Bhp / 6200rpm, Max Torque 200 Nm / 3600rpm
so from here you can determine which 4potter is better?
performance = isn't numbers alone. its power + handling.
I didn't even found 8.2 on 320i where did you see it.
oh ya hor. I forgot you're a fact sheet car enthusiast. for your convenient.centurion;328284 said:
on paper,
Civic 2.0L 0-100KM/h is 8.6sec. Max power 155 Bhp / 6000 rpm, Max Torque 188 Nm / 4200 rpm
BMW 320i 0-100KM/H is 9.0sec. Max Power 150 Bhp / 6200rpm, Max Torque 200 Nm / 3600rpm
so from here you can determine which 4potter is better?
performance = isn't numbers alone. its power + handling.
I didn't even found 8.2 on 320i where did you see it.
centurion
Well-Known Member
Re: questions about buying new e90
click on 320i
I like everything about cars, even novels, films and of course datasheet.
How to determine better engine? Drive it and see how it performs at both low and high RPM. Personally the Civic FD has such a sweet engine. Unburstable 4cyl.
new improved 2L I4 for BMW 320i : BMW 3 Series Sedan : Technical dataacupunch;328300 said:
click on 320i
I like everything about cars, even novels, films and of course datasheet.
How to determine better engine? Drive it and see how it performs at both low and high RPM. Personally the Civic FD has such a sweet engine. Unburstable 4cyl.
satines
Well-Known Member
Re: questions about buying new e90
Both the 320i and FD 2.0L are outstanding sedan compared to the other 2L out there.
Badge aside, I feel the 320i will score higher than the FD2.0L in many aspects, although it may be marginal.
But if it is MY decision, paying out of my OWN pocket, I would take the FD 2.0L. The >40k savings, I think justify for the marginal defeat to a 320i.
Nonetheless, you won't go wrong with either cars for now.
Both the 320i and FD 2.0L are outstanding sedan compared to the other 2L out there.
Badge aside, I feel the 320i will score higher than the FD2.0L in many aspects, although it may be marginal.
But if it is MY decision, paying out of my OWN pocket, I would take the FD 2.0L. The >40k savings, I think justify for the marginal defeat to a 320i.
Nonetheless, you won't go wrong with either cars for now.
Re: questions about buying new e90
thanks for all the replies! I personally would prefer a 6 cylinder as well.. but cannot afford a brand new one yet.. was offered a 525.. reg 2007 with about 4k-5k km on it only.. for 128k.. sounds like a great deal? car is from pml as well..
thanks for all the replies! I personally would prefer a 6 cylinder as well.. but cannot afford a brand new one yet.. was offered a 525.. reg 2007 with about 4k-5k km on it only.. for 128k.. sounds like a great deal? car is from pml as well..
