TP are back at it again!

[Tanzy]

Have you all noticed an increase in covert speed camera operations by the TP?
After a lull of two weeks they are back at it again! Over the past 2 weeks, I've seen 6 TP cameras on overhead bridges. 4 of which are on the PIE! This morning there was one on the bridge next to Great World City (5 lane road, 60/km/h speed limit, lots of Porsches in the morning). None of which had any signs or indication that they were operating.
Do they really think drivers are fat cows to be milked dry?
I thought we complained and they said they will listen.
I guess they were just humouring us.
The police thinks we are idiots.

 

[MRacer77]

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Have you all noticed an increase in covert speed camera operations by the TP?
After a lull of two weeks they are back at it again! Over the past 2 weeks, I've seen 6 TP cameras on overhead bridges. 4 of which are on the PIE! This morning there was one on the bridge next to Great World City (5 lane road, 60/km/h speed limit, lots of Porsches in the morning). None of which had any signs or indication that they were operating.
Do they really think drivers are fat cows to be milked dry?
I thought we complained and they said they will listen.
I guess they were just humouring us.
The police thinks we are idiots.

well whats new? I actually have not noticed a lull. My accute senses have been telling me that for the last few weeks the TP has actually been everywhere and anywhere and not just necessarily on overhead bridges.

 

[Ghostrider]

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When all is quiet....that is when people should worry....ambush time !!

TP just promoted themselves to the rank of those URA/HBD carpark enforcers !!...Most hated Figures that motorist loaf to see.

 

[Racebred]

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in all fairness if we dont speed we wont get caught.

 

[hackzi]

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in all fairness if we dont speed we wont get caught.

Agreed. They're just doing their job so cut them some slack...coz they can't possibly please everyone out there.

 

[Jetman]

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I have no issue with them doing their job - just requires the proper emphasis and for the correct reason. The overhead covert cameras are a distraction and they 'catch' the innocents! What about the true reckless drivers on our roads!! Drove along Lim Chu kang road yesterday and was astonished to find the limit to be 70kph! For petes sake, the road's wide enough to take a 747! and more still, the traffic's so light! I'm just sick and tired of the way things are done. Phew, now I've got this off my chest! Jetman

 

[rex7_vtec]

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Hey Jetman,

I think your nick suits you very well

Anyway I understand how you feel about these so-called covert operations... I personally would find it better if they could come up with a warning sign or something like that...

 

[hackzi]

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I have no issue with them doing their job - just requires the proper emphasis and for the correct reason. The overhead covert cameras are a distraction and they 'catch' the innocents! What about the true reckless drivers on our roads!! Drove along Lim Chu kang road yesterday and was astonished to find the limit to be 70kph! For petes sake, the road's wide enough to take a 747! and more still, the traffic's so light! I'm just sick and tired of the way things are done. Phew, now I've got this off my chest! Jetman

I understand your frustrations and I too find it difficult to stick to the speed limits imposed on our roads. At one time, I was watching out for such "convert" operations, looking out for anything that resembles a TP or camera on the overhead bridges or road sides... up to the point that I was suspecting a bloody rubbish bin placed along a 70kmh road (which I take almost everday) to be equipped with a hidden speed cam! Heck, I was so tempted to stop my car and inspect that rubbish bin! Ha ha... damn, I was telling myself... driving was so stressful... gotta look out for other cars, pedestrians... and now TP and their mobile cameras!

But heck, now I just enjoy my drive lah and will bear the consequences if caught (got 24 points to deduct mah).

As for the enforcement methods used by our authorities, I tell myself.... finding the "right" solution will not be easy. On the other hand, it's often easier to point out the problems.

My 2 pennies worth....

 

[Ghostrider]

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No issue about them getting their hands on speedster. If I were caught 120kmh above on any roads...I deserve to die...but not to book motorist who travel with accordance to the traffic conditions. I have been driving for donkey years (not to say I super good driver or old hand) and I have never been booked for speeding offences.

Now with the new toys....2kmh above the treshold limit of 20kmh will get your name into their PDA liao !! This is stupid...and they go telling the public what a good job they are doing....they think that all Singaporean got Primary school education nia is it....what a joke !!

 

[Doraemon]

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Seems like they've learned something from the Aussies and their multanova speed cameras... drivers ususally don't see them until they've passed a sign saying "Thank You for contibuting to the State budget deficit - have a G'day". Think of those poor guys down under with their 4,000cc family sedans... they never get out of second gear!!

 

[Azrielsc]

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That's strange... I've never seen any TP hiding or going about their covert ops... Think I'm oblivious to them or I'm blind!

 

[Racebred]

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lck rd at 70kmh? they have already acceded to requests. it used to be 50. it cannot be higher even though its wider than some eways, is coz they have small roads from the sides and they dont have proper accel lanes for vehicles to join in. but nonetheless its still possible to hit 300kmh there if u want to take your chances. just try not to harm the other innocent rd users

 

[martmode8850]

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in all fairness if we dont speed we wont get caught.

fully agree with you... if we speed, then risk getting caught...

 

[quiksilver]

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My accute senses have been telling me that for the last few weeks the TP has actually been everywhere

I remember the last time we went on the ECP and I was following behind u, thanks for the "spidy" sense! hurhurhur!

 

[Ronkovic]

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No issue about them getting their hands on speedster. If I were caught 120kmh above on any roads...I deserve to die...but not to book motorist who travel with accordance to the traffic conditions. I have been driving for donkey years (not to say I super good driver or old hand) and I have never been booked for speeding offences.

Now with the new toys....2kmh above the treshold limit of 20kmh will get your name into their PDA liao !! This is stupid...and they go telling the public what a good job they are doing....they think that all Singaporean got Primary school education nia is it....what a joke !!

Sad to say, for all their 'efforts', the TP is on every motorist's hate-list.
It wouldn't be so bad if they weren't so sneaky about the tactics and catching 'speedsters' who violate the law by less than a mere fraction (if indeed the case, just 10km/h off the limit). I do recall that they previously stated that they would actually put up signages to warn people of speed traps? What happened to that? Surely the revenue generated by the previous guerilla raid would've given them more than enough income for the signs to last a couple of decades.

You know, before this thread was up, the after-taste of the previous operation is still fresh and I still scanned bridges, bus-stops and road shoulders whenever I hit those long straight roads like AMK Ave 3 and 5 and on the CTE & PIE after BKE after 10pm. So far, haven't seen anything, but still, there's this like phobia within like u gotta keep on foot on the brake in case of emergency.
Maybe now we will need a trained TP 'spotter' as a passenger to spot the trap. Or in cynicism, maybe to get good PR, the TP could even initiate a "Spot Our Cameras" campaign with the first prize of 1 year of no summons.

But I still take my hat off to those TP who are fair to everyone - As in they pull over at the side of the road and switch their flashing lights on to warn people. So that way, if anyone one goes beyond the limit, can't blame anyone but themselves already.

 

[Ghostrider]

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These cops are reverting back to their hiding again...just that now they place themselves in such a way that you should be able to see them if you look really hard...they are not really in the open for some places.

This morning I received a msg that they were spotted on the Garden Bridge in Chinatown...how to spot them leh ??

They are on the hit list of many pple as many pple with clean driving records for years who never consider themselves as speedster now suddenly are on the TP's x'mas list..how you feel rite ? The toralance level use to be higher..then suddenly they lower the bar and everyone is caught out. Confirm the feeling is angry and fedup...who enjoys getting a fine ?

The way TP is telling pple about the statistic is also stupid....does that means that the stealth cam is so effective and previous menthod is totally useless and all the enforcement officers are ineffective ? Maybe they should consider retrentchment then.

 

[ryan]

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I don't see what's the problem with driving at the speed limit indicated by the authorities on our roads.

I speed, i get caught, it's my fault. I accept the fine. It's the same as in every other state. Obey the rules of the land we stay in.

If they want to hide in a tree and shoot speeders, by all means... they have every right. But we don't understand, as drivers, why they do it. But they do because they understand why and which accidents happen most frequently and where.

If you exceed by 10km/hr.. i'm sure you can chat it out with the officer on the spot and get him to pan-chan you. If you exceed it by 20km/hr.. then you deserved to be fined. It's your choice to speed. Let's not put the blame on the police. They have a responsibility, and we have ours as drivers too.

 

[Ghostrider]

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Bro....if they have stuck by their treshold, a lot of people would not have been booked. The way they term speeding is even if it a short burst of speed for overtaking or merging with faster traffic...they also book.

Imagine thsi for a min bro....

You driving on PIE from Jurong to Changi....all the way you maintain your speed at 80-90kmh....then you come across a road hogger...you downshift and floor it...your speed goes above the limit for a couple of seconds then you drop back to the normal speed limit.

2 weeks later, you receive a letter from TP saying that you were speeding....do you feel angry or guilty ?

I got shot for acclerating to 91kmh on Clementi Road when I came out from Toh Guan to merge with the traffic...it was a short burst from the merging lane to main road and then filter to centre lane....all it took was less than 5 secs....and I was booked for speeding. Damn stupid if you ask me.

How can they expect something dynamic to be controlled by something static ?

 

[ryan]

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Bro....if they have stuck by their treshold, a lot of people would not have been booked. The way they term speeding is even if it a short burst of speed for overtaking or merging with faster traffic...they also book.

Imagine thsi for a min bro....

You driving on PIE from Jurong to Changi....all the way you maintain your speed at 80-90kmh....then you come across a road hogger...you downshift and floor it...your speed goes above the limit for a couple of seconds then you drop back to the normal speed limit.

2 weeks later, you receive a letter from TP saying that you were speeding....do you feel angry or guilty ?

I got shot for acclerating to 91kmh on Clementi Road when I came out from Toh Guan to merge with the traffic...it was a short burst from the merging lane to main road and then filter to centre lane....all it took was less than 5 secs....and I was booked for speeding. Damn stupid if you ask me.

How can they expect something dynamic to be controlled by something static ?

You're the first case i heard man. But i understand your frustration.

They didn't mention the speed they clocked you at right? Did you go fight for your case? Since it's only 91km/hr on the E-way. And given your reasons, im sure they're able to waive the case.

What road did they book you on? Clementi Road?

 

[Ghostrider]

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No bro...its not a expressway....its a 3 lane carriageway.

Clementi Road....towards IMM. I came on to the road halfway from Toh Guan...had to merge with traffic from the right. So when I am in the merging lane...I speedup to match the speed of the traffic on the my left (remember I am merging from the right lane and not from the left).

I know my speed exceeded 70kmh (speed limit) but it was a short burst of speed only....and I got booked. I talk it with the officer...and their stand is...you exceeded the limit...you were speeding.

So I ask...I am then not allowed to speed rite....ok lor...so now everytime when I go on to that road...I stick to the limit of 70kmh nia...if driving with consideration to others gets me a 150 fine...I shall be inconsiderate and merge with traffic on the right at no more than 70kmh.