Bull vs Horse

clar

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I have always desired a Horse, but have a healthy respect for Bulls. We seem to have quite a few members here who own or have experience in both, could you please share your views on the above and why you choose one over the other? I have never driven either.
 
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clar;885646 said:
I have always desired a Horse, but have a healthy respect for Bulls. We seem to have quite a few members here who own or have experience in both, could you please share your views on the above and why you choose one over the other? I have never driven either.

i dont own either, but havin visited d ferrari factory in maranello, im impressed by amt of RND n build process whih goes into each car.

They have their own fiorano test track beside d factory. If u buy 1, i highly suggest to make a visit there.

My current fav is the F12,, d latest model...
 
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never had the honor of sitting in either.

how about donkeys and asses. haha.
 
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golfgti;885652 said:
i dont own either, but havin visited d ferrari factory in maranello, im impressed by amt of RND n build process whih goes into each car.

They have their own fiorano test track beside d factory. If u buy 1, i highly suggest to make a visit there.

My current fav is the F12,, d latest model...

They are out of my league now, but hoping to be able to afford it within 5 years time unless I underachieve the next few years :D
 
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With age, I have grown to like Ferrari less and Lambo more.
I wonder why?
Some say it's the wobbles effect.
 
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Have heard some bits here and there, but nothing more than hearsay. They say Lambo more reliable. Ferrari falls apart easily and they are damn sore losers when it comes to reviews. The sound Ferrari makes however, is epic!
 
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clar;885646 said:
I have always desired a Horse, but have a healthy respect for Bulls. We seem to have quite a few members here who own or have experience in both, could you please share your views on the above and why you choose one over the other? I have never driven either.


its a very very tough question to answer....i grew up worshipping horses...n i still support the Ferrari F1 team.

let me help ur train of thoughts a bit. we will never drive either a porky/F/L/maclaren to the max of their abilities. so i will not say one is better than the other. n u shudnt ask which is better.....none of us will ever know.

next. (im going to drop porky here)...which one do u like better, looks department? sexy 458? masculine gallardo or high tech understated mac...

running cost the bull is much cheaper. MUCH....ie 700 bux MAX per oil change at 15k km....vs err 1.7k for F.
current gallardo vs 458....im talking. mac is close to F.

very very different driving feel. different gearing, different ways of driving them fast.

resale - Fs r better....but thats cos F has solid marketing...they r like NIKE. in fact ferrari makes more money selling merchandise than cars. thats a fact.

crowd - Fs have more doctors lawyers type..u know i hv arrived kind of crowd. L has the ah beng businessman types. ppl who more or less dont give a fcuk. u learn more bad words in a L showroom than u wud in the army camp. depends on what types u hang out with....

price -L,F, Mac all quite similiar..but u prob find the best bargain in L showroom. they hv the best salesman in the world.....u go try car there u sure kenna psycho into buying one.

interior finishing - the mac is prob the best right now in terms of ergonomics....the F is luxurious....n to die for. the L is boring n dark....but has the simplest electronics. both mac n L r well fitted...tight n good QC. F still gets rattles n if u know where to look, u will see loose bits.

drivability- all 3 r very different. The 4wd Lambs r very planted..best traction from lights n superb grip in wet n dry...the faster u go the better they r. gear shifts r oldest tech here. slower n it punches u in corsa mode. u like it or u hate it. suspension is hard...but firm n inspires confidence on road. terrible turning radius. no normal woman can drive it.

the 550-2 r very different. different suspension. sharp on steering n easy to place...suspension is softer...but the gear shifts r still crazy.. still neck breaking. still no woman shud drive it

F has the lightes steering. the 458 is the sharpest imo. very good to place. fantastic vision. best supercar for daily drive. balancing attn seeking n ease of driving. superb sound....on blips. i hate it for hving 7 gears. u spend most of the time shifting up n down. prob worse on race track, where torque n a longer gearing helps. also i hate that exos. normal mode 2.5k it comes on....race mode about 3.6k. so in traffic light..u hear nothing n then 'wooooooaaaa' it comes on...n then when the rpm drops it goes quiet. annoying. a woman can hop in n drive.

mp4-12c - this car is a different league. drives like a bmw when u want it to....n goes like a GTR when u go mad. great visibility as well...but no kick for me. no nice blips. no drama. looks a bit sedated. suspension is the best i ever seen...it GUNS over humps my evoque has to slow down for. i suspect to drive this car well, u need to learn to unlearn what u know about cornering n braking....woman can drive.


the most impt aspect.

AFTERSALES - lambo say they number 2...nobody shud say they r number 1. period.
 
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send me a pm with ur email. i can show u a performance comp. if thats what u seek.
 
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Bloody good write up, toto!!! Very interesting insights on those cars :goodup:
 
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totoseow;885722 said:
send me a pm with ur email. i can show u a performance comp. if thats what u seek.

PM sent. Relative performance is prob not the most important for the exact reason you mentioned. We are never gonna get anywhere near their max potential. It's the driving and ownership experience that is most important!
 
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clar;885732 said:
PM sent. Relative performance is prob not the most important for the exact reason you mentioned. We are never gonna get anywhere near their max potential. It's the driving and ownership experience that is most important!


anyone can drive a mac well...a fantastic machine. i think mac knows what its doing...they will update ur software etc. the car will keep improving n can be done so as new development comes thru. the right strategy.

everyone will look good in a F...heritage..prestige...F1 tech n F1 everything...

only some will enjoy a L....n when u muster it...u wun change cos u cant! u will hate it for 6 days a week n then u jump into it n u will smile every single time at the end of your drive.
 
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Wah, today, I weep many many. Totoseow is writing poetry too!
 
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totoseow;885735 said:
anyone can drive a mac well...a fantastic machine. i think mac knows what its doing...they will update ur software etc. the car will keep improving n can be done so as new development comes thru. the right strategy.

everyone will look good in a F...heritage..prestige...F1 tech n F1 everything...

only some will enjoy a L....n when u muster it...u wun change cos u cant! u will hate it for 6 days a week n then u jump into it n u will smile every single time at the end of your drive.

Yeah, agree on the Mac part. Existing buyers will even get a slight power boost after software update. Have u tried the Aventador?
 
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wobbles;885738 said:
Wah, today, I weep many many. Totoseow is writing poetry too!

suck my balls. 1 series ppl hate me. love u too...tonight i finger u
 
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clar;885739 said:
Yeah, agree on the Mac part. Existing buyers will even get a slight power boost after software update. Have u tried the Aventador?

yes. makes me tremble after test driving. its the 100-200+ that scares u....but not my kind of car. too big n unweldy. my excuse for cannot afford.
 
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totoseow;885748 said:
suck my balls. 1 series ppl hate me. love u too...tonight i finger u

if toto can write this well for 1-series... double standard... haha
 
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Centurion9990;885764 said:
if toto can write this well for 1-series... double standard... haha

Toto.............. F or L more ugly???

*run away*
 
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knn. all i said was its ugly. how i know....

so this report i tried very hard not to b biased.

dont OT. i stress..the most impt aspect in such cars ownership. after sales.
 
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milk15;885765 said:
Toto.............. F or L more ugly???

*run away*


hmm,,i find the big Ls ugly...i find the Gs incredibly good looking after 9 long years...i find the 458 sexy. i find the FF err literally butt ugly. i find the mac err nice? n i find all PORKYS terribly terribly ugly (but i ack they prob hv the best engineering put into their GT3 types).

my last sports car will be a porky GT3 RS.
 

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