DLS Iridium or Focal K2p
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Re: DLS Iridium or Focal K2p
I've actually places a deposit for the speakers. Now I'm not too sure who to install it with. Jason at Dynasty as usual was telling me how his wonderful installation is different from other installers but it'll cost $600 etc etc. I'll probably head with HG and do a custom tweeter mount near the A pillars.
Another thing, how much is the Alpine 9855? I was quoted $650 at Edison but doesn't have warranty. Am also looking at the Alpine 7998R. Which is a better headunit?
I've actually places a deposit for the speakers. Now I'm not too sure who to install it with. Jason at Dynasty as usual was telling me how his wonderful installation is different from other installers but it'll cost $600 etc etc. I'll probably head with HG and do a custom tweeter mount near the A pillars.
Another thing, how much is the Alpine 9855? I was quoted $650 at Edison but doesn't have warranty. Am also looking at the Alpine 7998R. Which is a better headunit?
Vantage
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Re: DLS Iridium or Focal K2p
Hey bro,
The 7998R wins it for me! It's a much better SQ deck (no internal amplification) and personally, I feel that it was a better internal processor, onboard EQ/X-overs that offer you bags of tuning possibilities and an overall presentation that's beautifully balanced. The newer 985X decks IMO are a touch bright to my ears compared to their older 983x siblings. Sure, the 9855 has a better display and the Glide Touch thingy but I'll take the old gal over the new ones any time. You'd also notice that the 7998R has outlived the last 3 generation of the Alpine's 98x series decks ... kinda says a lot about its capability and qualities, don't you think so ?
But ultimately, you would need to spend some time listening and fiddling with both decks to decide which one wins your vote. Happy hunting !!!
Cheers,
Hey bro,
The 7998R wins it for me! It's a much better SQ deck (no internal amplification) and personally, I feel that it was a better internal processor, onboard EQ/X-overs that offer you bags of tuning possibilities and an overall presentation that's beautifully balanced. The newer 985X decks IMO are a touch bright to my ears compared to their older 983x siblings. Sure, the 9855 has a better display and the Glide Touch thingy but I'll take the old gal over the new ones any time. You'd also notice that the 7998R has outlived the last 3 generation of the Alpine's 98x series decks ... kinda says a lot about its capability and qualities, don't you think so ?
But ultimately, you would need to spend some time listening and fiddling with both decks to decide which one wins your vote. Happy hunting !!!
Cheers,
__iceman__
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Re: DLS Iridium or Focal K2p
7998???
Bro... this unit is very very old liao leh... I bought it when it was a few months old, and this was in July 2002... By now the newer models will already have functions that surpass this unit. I'm even surprised that they are still selling this unit. There are a few units that failed for swing mechanism, not known for its reliability - beware if you are planning to get 2nd hand and plan to use for sometime more.
Get the 9860, and combine it with the 701 processor lah. Killer combo for reasonable price man. The 9860 is even a DVD player, with optic out for best SQ to your 701 processor. 701 processor can also be controlled via the HU, so you don't even need to buy the 701 controller (save money).
If you want seamless ipod connectivity, get the 9861. Similar to 9860 but face mechanism is different.
With these single disc DVD players + 701... just add a TV screen anytime to enjoy full DTS / Dolby Digital sound, add $190 for a digital Mobile TV tuner, or add a rear view camera to have really cool views of who's tailgating you at the back. I installed my camera at my rear number plate, it even has night vision - can spot lorries/bikes/cyclists in my rear that don't even have their lights switched on.
7998???
Bro... this unit is very very old liao leh... I bought it when it was a few months old, and this was in July 2002... By now the newer models will already have functions that surpass this unit. I'm even surprised that they are still selling this unit. There are a few units that failed for swing mechanism, not known for its reliability - beware if you are planning to get 2nd hand and plan to use for sometime more.
Get the 9860, and combine it with the 701 processor lah. Killer combo for reasonable price man. The 9860 is even a DVD player, with optic out for best SQ to your 701 processor. 701 processor can also be controlled via the HU, so you don't even need to buy the 701 controller (save money).
If you want seamless ipod connectivity, get the 9861. Similar to 9860 but face mechanism is different.
With these single disc DVD players + 701... just add a TV screen anytime to enjoy full DTS / Dolby Digital sound, add $190 for a digital Mobile TV tuner, or add a rear view camera to have really cool views of who's tailgating you at the back. I installed my camera at my rear number plate, it even has night vision - can spot lorries/bikes/cyclists in my rear that don't even have their lights switched on.
Vantage
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Re: DLS Iridium or Focal K2p
Jaskin,
All you need to know about the DVA-9861 is found here -
http://www.alpine-usa.com/en/products/product.php?model=DVA-9861&lang=en&tab=F
Does not say anything about T/A and the onboard Bass Engine is the standard version.
Cheers,
Jaskin,
All you need to know about the DVA-9861 is found here -
http://www.alpine-usa.com/en/products/product.php?model=DVA-9861&lang=en&tab=F
Does not say anything about T/A and the onboard Bass Engine is the standard version.
Cheers,
Vantage
Active Member
Re: DLS Iridium or Focal K2p
Yeah, both the 9855/3 come with Bass Engine Pro feature so TA/3-way x-overs/etc are standard offerings along i Personalize. Somehow, these features are missing from the current range of decks. Oh well ... kinda makes it easier to justify the need for a H701 with the new decks, doesn't it ?
Cheers,
Yeah, both the 9855/3 come with Bass Engine Pro feature so TA/3-way x-overs/etc are standard offerings along i Personalize. Somehow, these features are missing from the current range of decks. Oh well ... kinda makes it easier to justify the need for a H701 with the new decks, doesn't it ?
Cheers,
oneHeadlight
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Re: DLS Iridium or Focal K2p
HX-D2 is not overspending bro...
HX-D2 is not overspending bro...
oneHeadlight
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Re: DLS Iridium or Focal K2p
The SQ from HX-D2 is superb... and the staging u can achieve is very sharp.
Say your dash board is the stage... if u use the 701 for instance, u can probably "segmentalise" in into say 7 segments, from right to left, then u do your time alignment etc..
if its HX-D2, you can probably have 12. Just to illustrate. So with HX-D2, u can realy zero in on the centre of the dashboard with time alignment. Of cos, all these only matter if u are chasing the last bit of SQ etc.. if u are not, then get a good enough one.
I like the 7998. The 985X series had rotor issues, not sure if they solved them altho they claimed they did. 986X series i havent heard...
The SQ from HX-D2 is superb... and the staging u can achieve is very sharp.
Say your dash board is the stage... if u use the 701 for instance, u can probably "segmentalise" in into say 7 segments, from right to left, then u do your time alignment etc..
if its HX-D2, you can probably have 12. Just to illustrate. So with HX-D2, u can realy zero in on the centre of the dashboard with time alignment. Of cos, all these only matter if u are chasing the last bit of SQ etc.. if u are not, then get a good enough one.
I like the 7998. The 985X series had rotor issues, not sure if they solved them altho they claimed they did. 986X series i havent heard...
oneHeadlight
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Re: DLS Iridium or Focal K2p
check around for the 9855... since it has reputation of rotor problems and possibly too bright. Good luck mate..
check around for the 9855... since it has reputation of rotor problems and possibly too bright. Good luck mate..
nikleica
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Re: DLS Iridium or Focal K2p
Hi all,
Went to check out the LD shop (next to Katong Shopping Centre) this afternoon and was asked to consider this set up:
1. Front - Component speakers from Lotus SEA Performance
2. Rear - Either co-axials (if not concerned about rear sound) or component speakers
3. Subwoofer - 12 inch boxed up
4. Monoblock amp - DLS (not too sure which series or wattage)
5. 4-channel amp - DLS (again not too sure which series or wattage)
6. 2- channel amp - DLS to run the rear components if it is set up
7. 701- Processor and controller
8. Alpine DVA 9965 HU (if this is installed, there is no need to spend $ on the 701 controller
Questions:
1. He mentioned that the current active subwoofers under the front seats can be hooked up with the front speaker setup. I asked if that would make the sound better? Didnt get a convincing yes from him. Any one can help here?
2. I was told that the set up (including all installation works with quality cables and wiring) would be for an average sounding car system but that was estimated to cost me the price of a new rolex submariner.
Is this true or can I get it closer to 4k?
3. I was told that if I wanted to change the HU in my e90, I would need to go ask PML to supply me another HU cover so that he can flush it in my car. Is this true and can I get one from PML?
4. If I want to do it piece meal without blowing a big hole in my pocket at one go, what should be the first things to do logically? I was thinking the following in this order of priority:
a) Front component speakers + 4 channel amp (can someone advise the cost for a decent setup using Lotus Performance component speakers + amp?)
b) Subwoofer + Monoblock (please advise on brand and price range)
c) H701 (don't think i want to buy the controller now as I may change the HU lastly..please tell me the indicative price for this in singapore)
d) HU 9965
e) Rear speakers + Front Centre speakers
5. What is the best place to mount the tweeters in the E90? Cost of beautifying the installation of tweeters?
6. Could I replace the subwoofers in the front seats with a 3-component bass speaker in that position? Was thinking of getting the 3-component speaker and placing the bass in that position.
7. Aside from L-D, could someone please advise me which other installers do excellent work with e-90s and have good tuning expertise? You may pm me with the contact names, numbers and addresses.
I thank you in advance and hope to hear from the experts out there soon.
Have a great weekend!
Hi all,
Went to check out the LD shop (next to Katong Shopping Centre) this afternoon and was asked to consider this set up:
1. Front - Component speakers from Lotus SEA Performance
2. Rear - Either co-axials (if not concerned about rear sound) or component speakers
3. Subwoofer - 12 inch boxed up
4. Monoblock amp - DLS (not too sure which series or wattage)
5. 4-channel amp - DLS (again not too sure which series or wattage)
6. 2- channel amp - DLS to run the rear components if it is set up
7. 701- Processor and controller
8. Alpine DVA 9965 HU (if this is installed, there is no need to spend $ on the 701 controller
Questions:
1. He mentioned that the current active subwoofers under the front seats can be hooked up with the front speaker setup. I asked if that would make the sound better? Didnt get a convincing yes from him. Any one can help here?
2. I was told that the set up (including all installation works with quality cables and wiring) would be for an average sounding car system but that was estimated to cost me the price of a new rolex submariner.
Is this true or can I get it closer to 4k?3. I was told that if I wanted to change the HU in my e90, I would need to go ask PML to supply me another HU cover so that he can flush it in my car. Is this true and can I get one from PML?
4. If I want to do it piece meal without blowing a big hole in my pocket at one go, what should be the first things to do logically? I was thinking the following in this order of priority:
a) Front component speakers + 4 channel amp (can someone advise the cost for a decent setup using Lotus Performance component speakers + amp?)
b) Subwoofer + Monoblock (please advise on brand and price range)
c) H701 (don't think i want to buy the controller now as I may change the HU lastly..please tell me the indicative price for this in singapore)
d) HU 9965
e) Rear speakers + Front Centre speakers
5. What is the best place to mount the tweeters in the E90? Cost of beautifying the installation of tweeters?
6. Could I replace the subwoofers in the front seats with a 3-component bass speaker in that position? Was thinking of getting the 3-component speaker and placing the bass in that position.
7. Aside from L-D, could someone please advise me which other installers do excellent work with e-90s and have good tuning expertise? You may pm me with the contact names, numbers and addresses.
I thank you in advance and hope to hear from the experts out there soon.
Have a great weekend!
oneHeadlight
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Re: DLS Iridium or Focal K2p
CHeck with iceman on SEAS Lotus.
Go to other shops like Dynasty, Hong Guan etc ....
your setup is gonna cost u a new submariner, yes.
set a budget and work around it.
don't need the rear coaxials. no need rear speakers at all.
mount the tweets on the dashboard.
e90 can go 3-way pretty easily i believe.
DLS A6 is pretty good value if u can get lobang, else abit expensive.
CHeck with iceman on SEAS Lotus.
Go to other shops like Dynasty, Hong Guan etc ....
your setup is gonna cost u a new submariner, yes.
set a budget and work around it.
don't need the rear coaxials. no need rear speakers at all.
mount the tweets on the dashboard.
e90 can go 3-way pretty easily i believe.
DLS A6 is pretty good value if u can get lobang, else abit expensive.
oneHeadlight
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Re: DLS Iridium or Focal K2p
choose the components carefully. Amp also. If you are going active, your 4 channel amp not enough. If u are going 3 way... even more so.
choose the components carefully. Amp also. If you are going active, your 4 channel amp not enough. If u are going 3 way... even more so.
