Good article : When the PAP loses an election, it will be time to leave.

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When the PAP loses an election, it will be time to leave.

http://flaneurose.blogspot.com/2011/03/when-pap-loses-election-it-will-be-time.html

Elections are around the corner. I have not posted anything on the upcoming elections. This isn't because I am politically apathetic. On the contrary, I am politically more aware than most Singaporeans.

The reason why I have not posted anything on the upcoming elections is because I do not think the result is in any doubt. The PAP will be returned to power again. The only thing in question is how big of a majority will they command. Will it be merely overwhelming, or ludicrously so?

And we all know why the PAP is so successful during elections. It has stacked the deck in its favor, shifted goalposts where necessary, subverted supposedly non-partisan organizations, co-opted potential opponents, passed legislation favorable to itself, leashed the media in its service and cultivated an environment where dissent is stifled for fear of reprisal.

You would think that a political party that is so proud of its policy successes (and that never fails to remind us about it!) would be more confident that it would be returned to power at each election on its own merits. Yet, it wheedles for every advantage it can get.

Is this not a sign of weakness? Or is it because the PAP genuinely believes that Singaporeans are too stupid to make the "obvious choice"?

This is not a rhetorical question. How one answers it is an indication of one's view of Singapore and Singaporeans.

With all of its political safeguards in place, it would be a miracle if the PAP is NOT returned to power.

Which brings me back to the title of this post, "When the PAP loses an election, it will be time to leave."

Living conditions in Singapore would have to deteriorate to an extremely serious state for the PAP to lose elections even with all of their incumbent's advantages.

Singapore will never reach such a parlous state, people scoff. We're not Egypt, Libya or Yemen.

Actually, one thing I do agree with our esteemed Minister Mentor is that Singapore, being small and vulnerable, does stand at the edge of disaster all the time. I disagree, however with the remedy.

Our political elite decided long ago that the best solution to the problem of "The little island that could" was to have a powerful government, ruled by the PAP that is for all intents and purposes, THE government. And this government, presumably staffed with the most talented people, would run the country in the best way possible. And politically, this government would be unfettered by irksome little opposition parties that in more democratic inefficient countries, would have to be dealt with, or heaven forbid, accommodated.

That model might have worked in earlier days. Perhaps it might even have been necessary during those uncertain times. But that model is showing its age, just as the ideas, attitudes and perspectives of the ruling party are looking stagnant, unresponsive, disconnected, and worst of all, dogmatic. Any criticism of current PAP government policy is treated as heresy.

A monolithic government such as ours can coast along for a long while without major problems. But a true crisis, a black swan, one that the PAP cannot handle, will lead to catastrophic failure. And without a robust framework in place for orderly transition and change of political leadership, Singapore would fail and fail irrecoverably.

Our politics are as impoverished as our most disadvantaged citizens.

The PAP government has conflated its existence and success with the existence and success of Singapore itself. No less than Ngiam Tong Dow stated, "I think our leaders have to accept that Singapore is larger than the PAP."

By so systematically dismantling and disempowering political opposition, the PAP is planting the seeds of its own destruction. If and when the PAP slips from power, there will be no second chances for it. No renewal for the PAP can come from a desert wasteland if Singapore fails irrecoverably.

In the past few years since the last election, many Singaporeans have wondered if our country has lost its way. It doesn't feel like home anymore. The government appears disconnected from the aspirations and needs of citizens.

If this is what the PAP calls success, I am not sure I would want to stick around to see what failure is like.

If a change in direction is needed in our policies, then it is best that the change be made as soon as possible.

But just as police states everywhere have a nasty habit of tightening controls just as the population gets restive, I have no doubt that the PAP will stack the deck even more heavily in its favor if ever in the future it is at even the slightest risk of losing power.

The PAP is so sure that its policies are the correct course of action that it would persist even in the face of severe opprobrium. The only concession made would be the occasional window-dressing that we are seeing now.

And if anyone believes that current immigration and economic policy is going to be reversed after the election, they will be severely disabused of this notion in a matter of months.

This is a government that has a hard time taking responsibility and criticism even for a minor flash flood, what more a true crisis that might be a result of its own doing, such as the demographic time bomb that continues to tick.

Tick-tock.

When you are in a hole, the first thing to do is to stop digging. The imperial nature of our government is not a sustainable state of affairs for any country, if only because men are proud and fallible. It is even less sustainable in a country like ours.

I can feel the hole becoming deeper.

I am less sanguine than our ministers who flippantly state that if the PAP were to lose its relevance, it will lose the mandate of the people and presumably gracefully step aside for a new party. Everything about the PAP shows that it would sooner change the rules of the game before that happens.

The question is, what will the PAP leave behind for a new government when it eventually does lose power, against all odds? A smoking ruin, or a shattered country?

When the PAP loses an election, it will be too late to leave. The time to leave would have been before.
 
Re: Good article : When the PAP loses an election, it will be time to leave.

I know who I'm gonna vote for come 7th May.
 
Re: Good article : When the PAP loses an election, it will be time to leave.

when ruling party is about to lose an coming election, first thing that comes to most people's minds is to look else where to live..nothing wrong man. To its own. But its saddening if such day happens, to see whatever our ancestors had done going down into the drain.

Of course, it won't happen in this election. Rather, looking in another perspective, we might be witnessing start of new phase of political shift and maturity as really good candidates finally beginning to surface and brave the opposition front. This doesn't necessary indicate start of declination for the ruling government. Like everything else, it's always good to strike a balance when country embarks on a new phase of journey.

Scoot off before collapse?..not for me..not without a fight in a land where my love ones live,... a place where I was born...dreams and memories were weaved...
 
Re: Good article : When the PAP loses an election, it will be time to leave.

Spore opposition is not ready (capability/capacity) to govern Spore....so PAP must win for the sake of the country but they better revisit those policies that is outdated or those candidates that may not warrant the huge pay vs their contribution..
 
Re: Good article : When the PAP loses an election, it will be time to leave.

I agree that the ruling party has trouble recognising its mis-steps like the handling of the Orchard Road flash flood and Mas Selamat's escape. It appears that they have all the answers already, like, "Oh, it is once in 50 years..." for the flood and, "Oh, but we captured him what..." for the Mas Selamat case.

They have done well to take Singapore to where we are today but they think that they are always right. Sometimes, I think a simple apology for the wrong policies or wrong actions will win the people's hearts even more.

This, they still have not learnt.
 
Re: Good article : When the PAP loses an election, it will be time to leave.

When you are a member of some elite club and spent most time in ivory tower many will loose sense of the real situation on the ground....and the worst outcome will be cronyism.....(this behavioural u can easily see in our neighbouring gov) hope this disease/virus dont spread here....
 
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Re: Good article : When the PAP loses an election, it will be time to leave.

i hear so many dissents n unhappy voices in so many channels from friends to colleagues to forums n what nots.......n still they continue to win. cos ppl r generally ballsless..int his the govt has succeeded. we r to scared to try new things. guys let it go. TRY something new!
 
Re: Good article : When the PAP loses an election, it will be time to leave.

Anology : Cars/Clothes/girlfirend/mistress can change anytime but not wife.....

I guess a win in any GRC by opps will send huge wave down their spines
 
Re: Good article : When the PAP loses an election, it will be time to leave.

I feel that things may change slightly this election, one of the reason being that we have slightly more creditable opposition.
Not like last time, even if I'm not happy, what choices do I have, uncle in slippers? Warehouse supervisor? I would rather vote for Bobby!
 
Re: Good article : When the PAP loses an election, it will be time to leave.

C3P0;634217 said:
I feel that things may change slightly this election, one of the reason being that we have slightly more creditable opposition.
Not like last time, even if I'm not happy, what choices do I have, uncle in slippers? Warehouse supervisor? I would rather vote for Bobby!

Nothing wrong with anyone like that. History have shown that "lesser" people have become great leaders over and over again. Having this kind of mentality is exactly what the pap wants us to have so that it'll work to their advantage.
 
Re: Good article : When the PAP loses an election, it will be time to leave.

totoseow;634203 said:
i hear so many dissents n unhappy voices in so many channels from friends to colleagues to forums n what nots.......n still they continue to win. cos ppl r generally ballsless..int his the govt has succeeded. we r to scared to try new things. guys let it go. TRY something new!

Totally agree.... ballsless is the word!!

Is like hearing from friends or other ppl that they drool to have a BMW, but in the end, end up another Jap car, reason being more reliable, service cheaper, whatever damn reasons they can give just no balls to try something "new", to them.
 
Re: Good article : When the PAP loses an election, it will be time to leave.

This erection is abt money!
Foreigner taking our job? Income affected = money
Foreigner buying all the properties? High property price = money
Indonesian flood the hospital bed? High medical cost = money
Singaporean losing their money in casino? = money

Buying an insurance Policy that does not pay end of day?
Opposition can or not? PAP can have solution?
 
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Re: Good article : When the PAP loses an election, it will be time to leave.

rodders;634218 said:
Nothing wrong with anyone like that. History have shown that "lesser" people have become great leaders over and over again. Having this kind of mentality is exactly what the pap wants us to have so that it'll work to their advantage.
No la, I'm not talking about those good ones who happen to wear slippers. For example you wear singlets but also damn handsome. :)
I'm just using examples to describe those opposition who can't make it. e.g. the one with a parrot on his shoulder. You put any bird on your shoulder I will rather vote for you than him :nehnehhh:
 
Re: Good article : When the PAP loses an election, it will be time to leave.

i love PAP
 
Re: Good article : When the PAP loses an election, it will be time to leave.

C3P0;634276 said:
No la, I'm not talking about those good ones who happen to wear slippers. For example you wear singlets but also damn handsome. :)
I'm just using examples to describe those opposition who can't make it. e.g. the one with a parrot on his shoulder. You put any bird on your shoulder I will rather vote for you than him :nehnehhh:

My bird is in-between my legs. SMC??

I wear singlet to show off my puny looking arms.:nehnehhh:
 
Re: Good article : When the PAP loses an election, it will be time to leave.

Holland how? Vote 4 gay who may push his agenda?
 
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Re: Good article : When the PAP loses an election, it will be time to leave.

even a butcher stand in holland will get my vote. i hv no more patience with ministers who will not even up 5 bucks more for welfare.
and a party that will not even admit they r at fault for letting a criminal escape. is it that hard to say sorry?
 
Re: Good article : When the PAP loses an election, it will be time to leave.

Butcher w/o sinister motives will also get my vote but not too sure abt ...
 
Re: Good article : When the PAP loses an election, it will be time to leave.

totoseow;634663 said:
even a butcher stand in holland will get my vote. i hv no more patience with ministers who will not even up 5 bucks more for welfare.
and a party that will not even admit they r at fault for letting a criminal escape. is it that hard to say sorry?

And we haven't even heard how the YOG's budget got busted.

I think the discontent from the public is not about them being lousy. I have to admit that they are doing that they should be and of course, remunerated accordingly. I think it's about being responsible to the people and be genuinely concerned with the people's welfare.

I think with foreigners coming in, it's not a bad thing if you can create enough jobs for locals. And if locals wants to vie for the job, they need to be better and I have seen people who top our foreign counterparts. Firstly, Singaporeans got to stop blaming others for their incompetency. At the same time, the government must be responsible to help us get to that level so that we're more competitive internationally.

It's not about which party, just look at what Dr Lily Neo and what she's been trying to do for what she believes in. She's from PAP but so unlike PAP. Why do I say so? Because I have lost the vision that the governing party is doing enough in my benefit.
 
Re: Good article : When the PAP loses an election, it will be time to leave.

pls vote for me

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