Munich Automobiles- getting from bad to worse

[bm323]

Re: Munich Automobiles- getting from bad to worse

Asked for omv before I signed on the agreement for the M3, gave me estimate and cited cannot give actual figure..but car already in store since feb 2011.. Checked with sg customs, omv is fixed before it can clear customs/port. I have every reason I believe they knew the figures but refuse to disclose to me..

What was the estimate given?

You have difficulty answering following??

How do you know that the contents of the second letter are not true? Or why are the contents of the second letter not true?

Which months are the cat B and open cat COEs, and how much are they?

 

[masschaoz]

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What was the estimate given?

You have difficulty answering following??

estimate was 83 to 85k..

and i dun have difficulty answering that question, overlooked.

I know cos the sales and marketing director was the one who on her own accord instructed to register with the a slightly higher value open cat coe in case omv was low.. thinking that i would be ok with it but never informed me before doing so. and I saw the letter.

Aug cat B coe ~$70,890, Open cat COE: ~$74490 ( july i think), actual value about $72k

 

[chongster]

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massc, why dun you buy another car with the available COE that you have and sell it after 6 months to encash the COE? admittedly, it would be less than the 70K that the COE is worth.. I think this is the only way to encash the COE. Of course, i also hope that things can end amicably and enjoy the car.

 

[masschaoz]

Re: Munich Automobiles- getting from bad to worse

massc, why dun you buy another car with the available COE that you have and sell it after 6 months to encash the COE? admittedly, it would be less than the 70K that the COE is worth.. I think this is the only way to encash the COE. Of course, i also hope that things can end amicably and enjoy the car.

That's in consideration. My fiancee's car will be 6 mth old by Jan.. My TCOE expires on 14 feb.. Maybe vday gift.. Lol..

 

[ClemZ]

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Makes me more convinced than ever that DIY PI is the way to go.

Even if things screw up (which i believe is unlikely if u are in the UK to take delivery of the car), at least the $100k++ savings over MA is still worth it.

 

[ClemZ]

Re: Munich Automobiles- getting from bad to worse

massc, why dun you buy another car with the available COE that you have and sell it after 6 months to encash the COE? admittedly, it would be less than the 70K that the COE is worth.. I think this is the only way to encash the COE. Of course, i also hope that things can end amicably and enjoy the car.

Wouldnt he lose even more $$ due to depreciation of the car ?

 

[chongster]

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Wouldnt he lose even more $$ due to depreciation of the car ?

no! dun buy one that cost a lot. he is already $70k in the pocket with a free COE.

 

[Niva]

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Am lost. maybe you can elaborate more?
keep M3 w free COE? and then sell another COE (from where) for 70k?

 

[masschaoz]

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No la..only $10,000 deposit paid by MA for that TCOE.. How I wish it's the full amount paid.. Lol

 

[ryan]

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To be clear, no one claimed you were making a story or falsifying any information. All I do know is that they have a view and it is different. I'm sure the truth is lingering out there

Nonetheless, it might be useful if you list your issues down in a clear format.

Good luck with your case.

How can there be 2 sides of the story? They r just trying to cover up? I did not mention what they tried to rectify with that's all, cos it was not satisfactory..

And I'm the actual owner.. With this statement of apparent 2 side of the story, it's making things worse and worse FYI, Ryan.

Why not I elaborate further: what they did.. My missing front pdc, they installed it for me.. To prevent actual lower omv, they gave me a higher open Cat Coe without even asking or informing me until I knew about it only upon collection.. And they gave me refund of the $1500 I paid for the sprayed rims and free M exhaust? As for the omv, I already warned on it if it would be low, i had to ask for it when I was about to drive off to discover that it's low.

The car is a nov 2010 manufactured that arrived in sg in Jan/feb. Stated date of pdi in service is feb 2011. They feel they have done enough with the rectification, as a customer I feel it's not cos I told them, the disappointment can't be quantified in $$. One of the very senior staff asked me: would I collect the car happy with the $1500 refund, M exhaust, an front pdc fixed, the answer I told them was "No".

So they are trying to claim that I'm making up a story now, well done.. Ryan.. Thanks for the info.. And I'm sure it's probably James or Joel who says there is a different story huh?

 

[chongster]

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No la..only $10,000 deposit paid by MA for that TCOE.. How I wish it's the full amount paid.. Lol

you are right..i need to study harder next time

 

[bm323]

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I know cos the sales and marketing director was the one who on her own accord instructed to register with the a slightly higher value open cat coe in case omv was low.. thinking that i would be ok with it but never informed me before doing so. and I saw the letter.

Sorry, I don't understand your point. She used a higher valued open cat COE to register your car under your name? They used the higher valued open cat COE in case the omv was low? And when they registered your car under the higher valued open cat COE, they had already obtained your cat B lower valued COE?

 

[masschaoz]

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Sorry, I don't understand your point. She used a higher valued open cat COE to register your car under your name? They used the higher valued open cat COE in case the omv was low? And when they registered your car under the higher valued open cat COE, they had already obtained your cat B lower valued COE?

Yup correct.. As to why this was done, I have no idea. It made things very complicated

 

[bm323]

Re: Munich Automobiles- getting from bad to worse

Yup correct.. As to why this was done, I have no idea. It made things very complicated

Then it's not complicated, but shows that it's a mistake on their part. And you go post in the forum saying fraudulent contents?? I would be more careful before shooting of my mouth if I were you.

 

[wt_know]

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it's not complicated? why not do like many AD do that if the coe is lower as per agreed ... just give cash back la (ie: deduct from agreed selling price)
why bid 2 coe and then transfer here transfer there?
giving a higher coe to the owner means higher depreciation which is a lose-lose situation for owner with lower omv + higher coe

 

[bm323]

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it's not complicated? why not do like many AD do that if the coe is too low as per agreed ... just give cash back la (ie: deduct from agreed selling price)
why bid 2 coe and then transfer here transfer there?

Why is it complicated?? Why would MA register the car with the higher valued open cat COE when they had the lower valued cat B COE??

 

[wt_know]

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because open cat can be used to register any car. if not for TS, they will use it for another car.
the higher coe is not necessarily bidded for TS. they can use this open cat coe to sell another car.

i assume in this case, they use the higher coe to cover the lower omv and hope TS is happy about it. apparently, he is NOT.
do you get it?

Why is it complicated?? Why would MA register the car with the higher valued open cat COE when they had the lower valued cat B COE??

 

[bm323]

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because open cat can be used to register any car. if not for TS, they will use it for another car.
i assume in this case, they use the higher coe to cover the lower omv and hope TS is happy about it.
do you get it?

Yes, I know open means can use for any car. But sure doesn't make commercial sense to use a higher valued open cat COE when there is a lower cat B COE. You know of any PI or PML who would do this to cover low OMV??

 

[wt_know]

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hahaha ... you have asked an excellent question.
that's why TS says it's complicated and he need to sign LTA transfer form :screwedu:

Yes, I know open means can use for any car. But sure doesn't make commercial sense to use a higher valued open cat COE when there is a lower cat B COE. You know of any PI or PML who would do this to cover low OMV??

 

[bm323]

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ur right,. it may sound like peanuts.. but its not the about the dollars and cents.. more about sincerity.. i for one reason, know that if they told me actual omv, i won't sign on the dotted line and would wait for a new piece then to take the ex stock..

If the OMV impt enough, next time better have it stated in writing.