My F30 Mod today
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Seraphblade
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I am quite curious, so we can flash our dme now for fuelling and timing advance??
Coding a 328 DME for it to work with a 320 is not really a flash. It has been done for quite a while.
When the DME is cracked, we will be able to flash the 320 DME directly. Coupled with a piggyback that "hijacks" the can bus (such as the JB4 for N54/55), you have the best combination in the market (most powerful).
Even Dinan gave up on coming up with a real tune and came out with a piggyback instead. So are the other big players in the market such as BMS Juicebox, AFE, etc are still doing piggybacks and waiting for the DME to be cracked so that they can flash in new fuelling parameters and timing advances.
I am quite curious, so we can flash our dme now for fuelling and timing advance??
Coding a 328 DME for it to work with a 320 is not really a flash. It has been done for quite a while.
When the DME is cracked, we will be able to flash the 320 DME directly. Coupled with a piggyback that "hijacks" the can bus (such as the JB4 for N54/55), you have the best combination in the market (most powerful).
Even Dinan gave up on coming up with a real tune and came out with a piggyback instead. So are the other big players in the market such as BMS Juicebox, AFE, etc are still doing piggybacks and waiting for the DME to be cracked so that they can flash in new fuelling parameters and timing advances.
Seraphblade
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I think we still will need the fuelling to be remapped... Piggyback alone cannot do too much...
Vargas and RB turbos are shelving their turbo upgrades for the N20 as there is not real control possible (yet).
Btw, I am talking abt for the 328 and 335. Even for the 320, when the DME is fully flashable, I am sure there is more we can do (even more power) compared to plugging in a coded 328 DME.
Red_Bean_Bun;1097732 said:
I think we still will need the fuelling to be remapped... Piggyback alone cannot do too much...
Vargas and RB turbos are shelving their turbo upgrades for the N20 as there is not real control possible (yet).
Btw, I am talking abt for the 328 and 335. Even for the 320, when the DME is fully flashable, I am sure there is more we can do (even more power) compared to plugging in a coded 328 DME.
Red_Bean_Bun
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The 328 and 335 has nothing better than piggy backs at the moment - quite true.
One thought that is being tinkered at the moment - additional sensor to the wastegates on top of the boost, camshaft and manifold.
In the mean time, one could look at the transmission instead ..... Power is nothing without delivery.
With the ZF 45z 8 speeders - lots of opportunities there.
The 328 and 335 has nothing better than piggy backs at the moment - quite true.
One thought that is being tinkered at the moment - additional sensor to the wastegates on top of the boost, camshaft and manifold.
In the mean time, one could look at the transmission instead ..... Power is nothing without delivery.
With the ZF 45z 8 speeders - lots of opportunities there.
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Red_Bean_Bun
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Passed 10 to Rend to pass you ..... he never give you ?
Passed 10 to Rend to pass you ..... he never give you ?
casper77;1098023 said:
Re: My F30 Mod today
The DME code is cracked already. The cost is double what we are paying for piggyback. I am still not sure what is the advantages as compare to piggyback since i can change the map on the fly. And true maybe this is more beneficial for 20i model.
Red_Bean_Bun;1097999 said:
The DME code is cracked already. The cost is double what we are paying for piggyback. I am still not sure what is the advantages as compare to piggyback since i can change the map on the fly. And true maybe this is more beneficial for 20i model.
Red_Bean_Bun
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The piggy back has its limitations - e.g fueling and timing related areas to make full use of a bigger turbo.
You can change the map in the piggy back on the fly.
You cannot change the map of the dme on the fly.
And a remap versus a piggy back map change - which one are you referring to ?
If its a remap - it would be interesting to know which application is used to edit the swfl.
The piggy back has its limitations - e.g fueling and timing related areas to make full use of a bigger turbo.
You can change the map in the piggy back on the fly.
You cannot change the map of the dme on the fly.
And a remap versus a piggy back map change - which one are you referring to ?
If its a remap - it would be interesting to know which application is used to edit the swfl.
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Red_Bean_Bun
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I have made the changes to the dme already including lifting the vmax and flashing to get around the detune .......
Would work for 116 to 118, 320 to 328 and 520 to 528 ......
The maps can't be altered directly.
sbc55;1098073 said:
I have made the changes to the dme already including lifting the vmax and flashing to get around the detune .......
Would work for 116 to 118, 320 to 328 and 520 to 528 ......
The maps can't be altered directly.
Re: My F30 Mod today
I know you are referring to flash dme from 20i with that from 28i.
But i am talking about flashing the 528i dme to gain another 20-30% horsepower for a stock car. The DME is indeed cracked now and can be remap. I am still contemplating to upgrade my dme or continue to use my piggyback.
The consideration now is i don't think i will change to bigger turbo or even install any performance staff so this may not be attractive for me.
I know you are referring to flash dme from 20i with that from 28i.
But i am talking about flashing the 528i dme to gain another 20-30% horsepower for a stock car. The DME is indeed cracked now and can be remap. I am still contemplating to upgrade my dme or continue to use my piggyback.
The consideration now is i don't think i will change to bigger turbo or even install any performance staff so this may not be attractive for me.
Red_Bean_Bun
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Yup was referring to the 20i to 28i flash - Our idea is to install the converted base flash and VIN on to a new DME and swap out the old DME.
This makes it easier to revert back to stock later. Service will be launched next month
Specifically for the 28i remap - they seem to emphasize the ability to change the vmax and MIL. Including the power class. That is the easy part.
That german WS that made the claims - Power output numbers looked similar to one using a piggy back - no point in general.
And if it the idea is to fit e.g bigger turbos then a custom tune is needed - Pre-prepared DMEs are going to be a lot of effort, coordination and downtime time for each and every case.
I would stick with the piggy back first and see how they refine their process first .....
Yup was referring to the 20i to 28i flash - Our idea is to install the converted base flash and VIN on to a new DME and swap out the old DME.
This makes it easier to revert back to stock later. Service will be launched next month
Specifically for the 28i remap - they seem to emphasize the ability to change the vmax and MIL. Including the power class. That is the easy part.
That german WS that made the claims - Power output numbers looked similar to one using a piggy back - no point in general.
And if it the idea is to fit e.g bigger turbos then a custom tune is needed - Pre-prepared DMEs are going to be a lot of effort, coordination and downtime time for each and every case.
I would stick with the piggy back first and see how they refine their process first .....
sbc55;1098088 said:
Seraphblade
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Re: My F30 Mod today
sbc55, what option are u looking at for the dme flash for the 328 and 335s?
sbc55, what option are u looking at for the dme flash for the 328 and 335s?
Re: My F30 Mod today
I found this video online, thought it was quite handy for those who want to install their own camera, I wasn't aware there was a 12v socket under the glove compartment (unless SG model different)
[video=youtube;LfmAhDq7lxc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfmAhDq7lxc[/video]
I found this video online, thought it was quite handy for those who want to install their own camera, I wasn't aware there was a 12v socket under the glove compartment (unless SG model different)
[video=youtube;LfmAhDq7lxc]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LfmAhDq7lxc[/video]
