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pml bring in 318??
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achee
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Was having this question in my mind and see if any bros can help to answer.
Many bros commented that 318 is in fact the same engine as 320 (I agree with this), just that it is detuned to achieve 136 ponies instead of its original 156 ponies and the buyer can then increase the ponies in an aftermarket by remapping etc. Why would BMW AG want to deliberately depress its ponies if it is supposed to achieve higher?
Hi wt_knows,
318i made in Germany
320i made in South Africa
Probably can do a re-mapped to match the power of 320i
yes 318i and 320i indeed shared the same engine but the 318i is actually 143hp and 190nm..... vs 320i: 150hp and 200nm (156hp and 20 0nm)
some items that don't come along with the 318i are: XL (high beam and low beam), arm rest front sliding, automatic air-conditioning, rear passenger air-con vent, different leather, headlight washer system, interiror rear-view mirrors with automatic anti-dazzle function...
you are right you pay for what you get......so this are all the items that 318i owner will not be getting............unless they go for the 320i......so for 20k it should be worth it to have all those goodies/extras for the 320i.......
Probbaly you can say 320i is the highline version vs the normal 320i (which is 318i)
as comparing 323i and 325i (the power definitely alot of difference, 177hp or 190hp vs 218hp) - any 323i / 325i owner out there care to share / to clarify......?
cheers..............
Mike318i
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history of engine production can be view here BMW 3 Series (E46) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
wt_know
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based on your theory,
BMW could separate 323/325 and 523/525 by its equipment and quality (ie: leather quality, memory sets, xenon lights, electronics, idrive,with & without bodykit, etc) -> it is simple, isn't it ?
so, why choose the route to detune the engine ? it is quite simple, you have to pay more for more power
ac323;462016 said:
Hi Mike218,
Take-out spare tyre (reduce weight)
GrupeeM
Headers
Exhaust
Volker Spec II plugs
Ivac
Coil Booster
Velocity (latest version of sprint booster)
finally do a ECU re-flash (should be able to squeeze out max 20hp)
happy modding (MTL)
remember to improve the handling after that: KW v3 plus H&R sway bar
BBK?
cheers
Hi wt_know,
FYI:
The 323 and 325 shares the same engine and same intake manifold, however the 325 runs at much higher compression ratio. I supposed this is possible through different engine mapping by giving more intake and exhaust valve overlap, thereby reducing the engine compression.
This is supposed to be the most economical way competing with the rival rather than having another engine like what they did for the E46.
That said, it doesn't mean that an simple re-programming can bring back the additional horsepower. All other E90 in the stable has got a max revv of 7000rpm but the 323 max out at 6500. Till date, I have not seen any aftermarket tuners being able to shift the redline for the automatic gearbox. Even if they manage to do for the engine mapping, the transmission map would have intervene and upshift the car to the next higher gears.
i think PML already stops bringing in 523i.........
cheers
Hi XCLR8,
honestly for me i can leave without those goodies so it is very personal........if you are fetching people very often then the rear air-con vent is a must (i believed)....to me 20hp really can't feel the difference in pull unless is 325i/335i that you are comparing (4cyc vs 6cyc)............
by the way what colour you chosen? you collecting end of the month? that means the 3rd batch delivery for August then...
cheers
