Run flat or non run flat tyres
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Red_Bean_Bun
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Re: Run flat or non run flat tyres
Depends on your risk appetite ..... I have done 80k km on one set of tyres before it punctured and I was forced to change it. Bochap driver.
Also depends on your driving style.......grand theft auto vs grand ma. Performance driver.
Lastly, there should be markings on the tyre threads to indicate time to change.......Aware driver.
Depends on your risk appetite ..... I have done 80k km on one set of tyres before it punctured and I was forced to change it. Bochap driver.
Also depends on your driving style.......grand theft auto vs grand ma. Performance driver.
Lastly, there should be markings on the tyre threads to indicate time to change.......Aware driver.
Cars4fun;1046592 said:
Re: Run flat or non run flat tyres
Understand, 80k is really pushing it.
I normally change around 30-40k for non RFTs. Not that the tires are totally worn, but more because they are getting less grippy and often quite noisy.
As I read that RFT supposed to last longer, was just wondering the % over normal tires that they can last.
Will certainly look out for the wear indicators, but just looking ahead to anticipate when I am expected to replace the tires.
Understand, 80k is really pushing it.
I normally change around 30-40k for non RFTs. Not that the tires are totally worn, but more because they are getting less grippy and often quite noisy.
As I read that RFT supposed to last longer, was just wondering the % over normal tires that they can last.
Will certainly look out for the wear indicators, but just looking ahead to anticipate when I am expected to replace the tires.
Red_Bean_Bun
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Re: Run flat or non run flat tyres
There's a wear rating based on the specs of your tires as well ...... So more clues there ....
There's a wear rating based on the specs of your tires as well ...... So more clues there ....
Baby1M
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Re: Run flat or non run flat tyres
It is only natural that the GY Eagles are nosier and harder over the GY Excellence... simply because Eagle's has better grip (both dry & wet) over excellence. Within each brand, the quieter the model the less grip you get... it is a compromise.
The original equipped should be Bridgestone Potenza RE-050 before they switched to another brand/model of RFT.BBee;1046535 said:
It is only natural that the GY Eagles are nosier and harder over the GY Excellence... simply because Eagle's has better grip (both dry & wet) over excellence. Within each brand, the quieter the model the less grip you get... it is a compromise.
Slow_poke_driver
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Re: Run flat or non run flat tyres
RFT may not last as long as normal tyres, especially when camber is aggressive.
Cars4fun;1046625 said:
RFT may not last as long as normal tyres, especially when camber is aggressive.
Baby1M
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Re: Run flat or non run flat tyres
Also all the other brand/models of tyre in the Extreme Performance Tyres, will win GY AS2 hands down both in dry and wet at a given same speed, except mileage.
True that most RF lose out to Non-RF but RF also win a handful of non-RF, it is subjected to which brand+model we are comparing it with. Example: Continental SportContact 2 SSR Run Flat wins GY AS1 non-RFT in terms of dry, wet and mileage except comfort
Yes it is and only applicable in the category of Max Performance Tyres (plus all lower categories). However it was dethroned when PSS came along. And yes, it is still one of the best in Max Performance Tyres.lf37;1046694 said:
Also all the other brand/models of tyre in the Extreme Performance Tyres, will win GY AS2 hands down both in dry and wet at a given same speed, except mileage.
True that most RF lose out to Non-RF but RF also win a handful of non-RF, it is subjected to which brand+model we are comparing it with. Example: Continental SportContact 2 SSR Run Flat wins GY AS1 non-RFT in terms of dry, wet and mileage except comfort
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Baby1M
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Re: Run flat or non run flat tyres
Max Performance Tyres*
Non-RF
1st Choice = Michellin PSS
2nd Choice = GY AS2
3rd Choice = Michelin Pilot Sport 3 PS3
Note: Am influenced by this test = 2013 Summer Tyre Buying Guide | the online tyre guide
RFT
1st Choice = Continental SportContact 2 SSR Run Flat
2nd Choice = Bridgestone Potenza S001 RFT
3rd Choice = Pirelli P Zero Runflat
Extreme Performance Tyres
Non-RF
1st Choice = Bridgestone Potenza RE070
2nd Choice = Bridgestone Potenza RE11
3rd Choice = Dunlop Direzza Sport Z1 Star Spec
RFT
- The wet grip is too dangerous to consider.
Trackdays Tyres - Only when w/o regard to cost and mileage
Non-RF
1st Choice = Yokohama ADVAN Neova AD08R
2nd Choice = Nitto NT01 (mileage poorest of these 3 choice)
3rd Choice = Michelin Pilot Sport Cup (wet grip poorest of these 3 choice)
* Listed here because of the popularity of PSS in this community. If opt for Non-RF, would go for the Extreme Performance Tyres and choose Bridgestone Potenza RE070 if sizing permits.
Personally at time of this post, below will be my choices subjected to size availability and pricing at the point of intent to purchase/change:kyubi;1046709 said:
Max Performance Tyres*
Non-RF
1st Choice = Michellin PSS
2nd Choice = GY AS2
3rd Choice = Michelin Pilot Sport 3 PS3
Note: Am influenced by this test = 2013 Summer Tyre Buying Guide | the online tyre guide
RFT
1st Choice = Continental SportContact 2 SSR Run Flat
2nd Choice = Bridgestone Potenza S001 RFT
3rd Choice = Pirelli P Zero Runflat
Extreme Performance Tyres
Non-RF
1st Choice = Bridgestone Potenza RE070
2nd Choice = Bridgestone Potenza RE11
3rd Choice = Dunlop Direzza Sport Z1 Star Spec
RFT
- The wet grip is too dangerous to consider.
Trackdays Tyres - Only when w/o regard to cost and mileage
Non-RF
1st Choice = Yokohama ADVAN Neova AD08R
2nd Choice = Nitto NT01 (mileage poorest of these 3 choice)
3rd Choice = Michelin Pilot Sport Cup (wet grip poorest of these 3 choice)
* Listed here because of the popularity of PSS in this community. If opt for Non-RF, would go for the Extreme Performance Tyres and choose Bridgestone Potenza RE070 if sizing permits.
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wobbles
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Re: Run flat or non run flat tyres
After 14,000kms, my stock 20" Dunlop RFTs developed blisters at the rear tyres and needed changing. I was initially told RFTs would last between 20-30,000kms, but I suspect my late night adventures at LCK ex-Skyhawk landing strips might have whittled my tyres down earlier than expected.
I swapped them for Michelin PSS 20" non-RFTs and honest to goodness, I could feel improved road holding capabilities and a softer quieter ride on the roads. Haven't tried any late night runs at Orchard Gudang yet though, so can't say about lap times though
kyubi;1046709 said:
After 14,000kms, my stock 20" Dunlop RFTs developed blisters at the rear tyres and needed changing. I was initially told RFTs would last between 20-30,000kms, but I suspect my late night adventures at LCK ex-Skyhawk landing strips might have whittled my tyres down earlier than expected.
I swapped them for Michelin PSS 20" non-RFTs and honest to goodness, I could feel improved road holding capabilities and a softer quieter ride on the roads. Haven't tried any late night runs at Orchard Gudang yet though, so can't say about lap times though
kyubi
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Re: Run flat or non run flat tyres
Haha....Didn't know there is an Orchard Gudang
wobbles;1046712 said:After 14,000kms, my stock 20" Dunlop RFTs developed blisters at the rear tyres and needed changing. I was initially told RFTs would last between 20-30,000kms, but I suspect my late night adventures at LCK ex-Skyhawk landing strips might have whittled my tyres down earlier than expected.
I swapped them for Michelin PSS 20" non-RFTs and honest to goodness, I could feel improved road holding capabilities and a softer quieter ride on the roads. Haven't tried any late night runs at Orchard Gudang yet though, so can't say about lap times though
Haha....Didn't know there is an Orchard Gudang
Baby1M
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Re: Run flat or non run flat tyres
Don't mind me asking, is your Dunlop RFT = Dunlop SP Sport Maxx ROF? This piece of RFT is very bad in mileage, just slightly better than Continental Sport Contact 5 SSR Runflat only. Even the Bridgestone Potenza RE050A Run Flat can last about 30,000km.wobbles;1046712 said:After 14,000kms, my stock 20" Dunlop RFTs developed blisters at the rear tyres and needed changing. I was initially told RFTs would last between 20-30,000kms, but I suspect my late night adventures at LCK ex-Skyhawk landing strips might have whittled my tyres down earlier than expected.
I swapped them for Michelin PSS 20" non-RFTs and honest to goodness, I could feel improved road holding capabilities and a softer quieter ride on the roads. Haven't tried any late night runs at Orchard Gudang yet though, so can't say about lap times though
