Tyre Encounter

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LimPeh;1027186 said:
Something wrong with your tires. Do you mind sharing which brand is it? I only need to pump my tires once every few months, usually 5 to 6 months.

Every tire repair shop that I know will do the soapy water bubble leak test. If they don't do that, never return to them ever again. Hehe, kind of funny to imagine the tire shop spending 15 mins or more working on your tires and then discover they were repairing a non existing leak. Have you experienced this before?

Did you have any difficulty looking for air bubbles with water only? I suggest soapy water instead. The bubbles are easier to spot.


Are you on Nitrogen? I always pump every 2 weeks as well, regardless of brand (have used Conti, Michelin, Bridgestone, Falken, Goodyear, Toyo, Kumho). All below 1 yr of usage as I change tyres every 10-12mths. Difference in pressure is around 10-20kpa.
 
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5-6 months....... Sartest...........



Cheeeeeeeeeeeers
 
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seanskye;1027202 said:
Are you on Nitrogen? I always pump every 2 weeks as well, regardless of brand (have used Conti, Michelin, Bridgestone, Falken, Goodyear, Toyo, Kumho). All below 1 yr of usage as I change tyres every 10-12mths. Difference in pressure is around 10-20kpa.

Yeah. No matter what brand, will lose pressure in a few weeks if use normal air.
 
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Thanks seanskye for confirming the practice of sound management of your tires. Unfortunately many drivers fail to pay sufficient attention to their tires! Some are ignorant, while others cant be bothered. Our bmw is a well made car for Performance and to do its job properly it need a set of well maintained tires! I rest my case.
 
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gcc;1027248 said:
Thanks seanskye for confirming the practice of sound management of your tires. Unfortunately many drivers fail to pay sufficient attention to their tires! Some are ignorant, while others cant be bothered. Our bmw is a well made car for Performance and to do its job properly it need a set of well maintained tires! I rest my case.


Maybe they are on nitrogen. That one doesn't need frequent pumping unlike normal air.
 
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seanskye;1027202 said:
Are you on Nitrogen? I always pump every 2 weeks as well, regardless of brand (have used Conti, Michelin, Bridgestone, Falken, Goodyear, Toyo, Kumho). All below 1 yr of usage as I change tyres every 10-12mths. Difference in pressure is around 10-20kpa.

I'm really surprised on the need to pump every 2 weeks. Didn't know nitrogen makes such a big difference. Yup, I chose nitrogen on my previous car when I changed new tires. I change tires every 2 years and I top up the tire pressure with normal air. Most of the time less then 10kPa.

Oh.... Btw, do you notice that for Esso auto air pumps, it will release some air from your tires before topping it to the set pressure? That could explain the need to "top up" 10-20kPa....

C3P0;1027229 said:
5-6 months....... Sartest...........

I thought its a norm, now I know it's Sart....


douggie;1027238 said:
Yeah. No matter what brand, will lose pressure in a few weeks if use normal air.

Next time when I change tires, I will try normal air and see....

seanskye;1027272 said:
Maybe they are on nitrogen. That one doesn't need frequent pumping unlike normal air.

Anyone else here use nitrogen and can share their experience?
 
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Quality post....


Q: Is there any advantage to using nitrogen instead of compressed air in tires? Will I notice improved fuel economy or a smoother ride? Will my tires last longer?

A: Sort of. From the top: Air is 78 percent nitrogen, just under 21 percent oxygen, and the rest is water vapor, CO2 and small concentrations of noble gases such as neon and argon. We can ignore the other gases.

There are several compelling reasons to use pure nitrogen in tires.

First is that nitrogen is less likely to migrate through tire rubber than is oxygen, which means that your tire pressures will remain more stable over the long term. Racers figured out pretty quickly that tires filled with nitrogen rather than air also exhibit less pressure change with temperature swings. That means more consistent inflation pressures during a race as the tires heat up. And when you're tweaking a race car's handling with half-psi changes, that's important.

Passenger cars can also benefit from the more stable pressures. But there's more: Humidity (water) is a Bad Thing to have inside a tire. Water, present as a vapor or even as a liquid in a tire, causes more of a pressure change with temperature swings than dry air does. It also promotes corrosion of the steel or aluminum rim.

If I ever need to top off a tire when I'm out on the road, I'll always briefly depress the tire chuck's valve with my thumbnail and vent some air. If my thumb gets wet, there's water in the line. Some gas stations don't do a very good job of keeping the humidity out of their air system. I don't even like to use a water-based tire-mounting lubricant unless I can let the tire bake in the sun for a couple of hours before I air it up and seat the bead. I've dismounted tires (not mine) that had several quarts of water inside—probably from a compressed-air hose that collected water and was never purged properly.

How is water relevant to a nitrogen discussion? Any system that delivers pure nitrogen is also going to deliver dry nitrogen. Filling tires with nitrogen involves filling and purging several times in succession, serially diluting the concentration of oxygen in the tire. This will also remove any water.

It's certainly simple, although time-consuming, for a tire technician to fill and bleed tires. But most shops use a machine that not only generates almost pure nitrogen by straining the oxygen out of shop-compressed air, but will also automatically go through several purge cycles unattended. Some shops have been charging as much as $30 per tire for this service. I think that's too much. If you're buying a new tire, it should be far less. Still, the nitrogen generator, filling system and technician's time aren't free—the dealer is entitled to some return for that.

So, to answer your specific questions: With nitrogen, your tire pressures will remain more constant, saving you a small amount in fuel and tire-maintenance costs. There will be less moisture inside your tires, meaning less corrosion on your wheels. You will not be able to feel any difference in the ride or handling or braking, unless your tire pressures were seriously out of spec and changing to nitrogen brought them back to the proper numbers.
 
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Since no one shared his/her experience on moving from RF to non-RF tyres, it so happens that one of my colleagues changed to CSC5 non-RF on his F10 535i a couple of days back and I had a chance to test drive it. There was a noticeable difference in ride comfort and quietness! It was much more supple with road noise greatly reduced without sacrificing that much in feedback though more enthusiastic drivers may dislike a little roll in cornering at higher speed. It absorbs rough road surfaces a lot better unlike the roar on my F10. And it's cheaper than the CSC3 RF tyres. But to me it's what a luxury car should drive like.
 
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I had a nail in my tyre recently and didn't even realise it..my OBC (not BM) kept showing me there was something wrong with my tire pressure. Happened about 3 times and every time I checked, nothing wrong leh..kept resetting the message. About 1 month late sent for servicing and told my SA that something was wrong with the OBC. When wife picked up the car, SA told my wife there was a nail in the tire..sibeh paiseh
 
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JES;1031506 said:
I had a nail in my tyre recently and didn't even realise it..my OBC (not BM) kept showing me there was something wrong with my tire pressure. Happened about 3 times and every time I checked, nothing wrong leh..kept resetting the message. About 1 month late sent for servicing and told my SA that something was wrong with the OBC. When wife picked up the car, SA told my wife there was a nail in the tire..sibeh paiseh

Tire spoilt or not??
 
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I am on my 3rd set of Michelin Pilot Super Sport (non-RFT) now. 100% behind this tyre for dry, wet handling and extreme comfort.
I am driving the F10 Activehybrid 5 and the interior is extremely quiet...
 
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There's another thread under Tyre & Rim in 3 series forum.
I'm all for non RF, have to either loan a spare tyre (slim) with jack and spanner if driving up North, or get a tyre repair kit with sealant and pump. Then drive to nearest tyre shop lor!
There's so much research gone into normal tyre it will take a long time for RF to reach there. Quietness and comfort is just 2 positive of non-RF. You will appreciate the cornering, acceleration, and braking of non-RF!!!
 
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ozipo;1027312 said:
sharing my own "Tyre Encounter".
Got a nail, managed to get to a tyre shop in my RFT
End up changing all four rims and tyre: ( I, hum hum cho lang)
View attachment 54093

wow that's really LOW profile....

could you share whats your ride and tyre specs?
 
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By the way thanks for some of the feedback. Looks like my next set of tyres (due soon)will be non-RF.:)
 
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ANdrewTsh;1031554 said:
I am on my 3rd set of Michelin Pilot Super Sport (non-RFT) now. 100% behind this tyre for dry, wet handling and extreme comfort.
I am driving the F10 Activehybrid 5 and the interior is extremely quiet...
Very good tyres. Only thing they need to improve is noisiness on concrete floor.

Another major advantage of PSS is the weight which is relatively lighter than competition.
 

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