Used Car Dealers Tampering With Odometer ?

[iScoupe]

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i would like to set 88888km & stop there , for fengshui purpose , anyone can recommend workshop?

 

[DrK]

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I sold my car in Nov 10 with 100,000 km. Now it is advertising in SgCarmart with 70,000km. -30,000km in 1 month. Do the maths. Most car dealers are greedy. The desperate ones are morons.

 

[Red_Bean_Bun]

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it's illegal. and in many other parts of the world, they will be prosecuted with a fine n even a jail sentence.

why in 1st class Singapore is the authorities doing little about this?

a simple clear cut law that states that anyone found tampering with the odometer with the intend to cheat people
should warrant say a fine of say 10, 50, 100k n and/or jail of a week/month etc.

Difficult to enforce........if the onus is on the dealer to do the due diligence -

1. If the dealer got caught by the new owner - they could say that they received the vehicle as it is.

2. If the new owner mod the odometer then they could say that they received the vehicle as it is

3. If the previous owner mod the odometer look at point 1.

Multiply this effect on a couple of thousand cars .......... to enforce this would force everyone to pay more taxes to pay for systems and resources to attempt to address this.

 

[Niva]

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Hope I am wrong...but if one guy does it to boost his sales...im sure most of the used car dealers do that...it will be like if you cant beat them, join them kinda thing no??

even direct owners these days can turn out to be from dealers....careful guys

 

[leebmer]

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apr 08 car...3 owners...16,000km....reasonable mileage?...(1) some could argue that it is a sport car and owned by ppl who have many cars hence low mileage clocked by each of these 3 owners is possible.. (2) dealer sold to dealer hence hardly any mileage clocked...

Used Audi R8 4.2 FSI Quattro R-tronic Car for Sale in Singapore, AutoInc Sports - sgCarMart

what do u think?

 

[hoks]

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For high end sports car like R8, I would tend to believe...

Someone should design a tamper proofed odo and patent it, sure huat ahh.

 

[wt_know]

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anything is hackable or can be tampered, one way or another.
that's my layman point of view.

 

[leebmer]

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These two R8 with one owner has higher mileage than the one with 3 owners...if need to chose, go for which one - higher mileage or more owners?

Used Audi R8 4.2 FSI Quattro R-tronic Car for Sale in Singapore, Hui Hua Credit - sgCarMart

Used Audi R8 4.2 FSI Quattro R-tronic Car for Sale in Singapore, CarTimes Automobile - sgCarMart

 

[zuoom]

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Difficult to enforce........if the onus is on the dealer to do the due diligence -

1. If the dealer got caught by the new owner - they could say that they received the vehicle as it is.

2. If the new owner mod the odometer then they could say that they received the vehicle as it is

3. If the previous owner mod the odometer look at point 1.

Multiply this effect on a couple of thousand cars .......... to enforce this would force everyone to pay more taxes to pay for systems and resources to attempt to address this.

ok, hard to enforce. that's fine.

let's do one step at a time.
ie: lay down what's the punishment for these sort of offence.

up to 100K fine, up to 3 months jail? something along those line.

 

[Red_Bean_Bun]

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ok, hard to enforce. that's fine.

let's do one step at a time.
ie: lay down what's the punishment for these sort of offence.

up to 100K fine, up to 3 months jail? something along those line.

The government could set up sting operations and target the tuners etc - they have the tools to do the odo changes and thus would be the logical convergent point between the perpetrators (owners and dealers) .............. and thus execute a typical kill one to warn the hundreds strategy.

That way the laid down punishment can be excercised ........... and exist.

 

[ac323]

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i would like to set 88888km & stop there , for fengshui purpose , anyone can recommend workshop?

Hi Jac,

like that i think you must get those meter with all round 8, so no matter how you clock it will always stay at 8.....................Huat Ah!!!




cheers

 

[ac323]

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or it will be good if ROV / LTA should certified the mileage, etc etc when owner traded their ride to any dealer so dealers therefore cant cheat.
and also must go for dealer course just like property, must have cert then can sell car....



cheers

 

[ph_chin88]

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Buying car with low mileage should also observe other wear and tear areas.

Having said that, the engine compartments can be cleaned and polished. The leather seats can be changed etc.

 

[E92-Lighting]

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i heard of many people doing this, it will still happen as long as money talks

 

[swt]

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anyone has any experience with this dealer?
Vision Cars | Used Car Dealer Singapore - sgCarMart

 

[keki]

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Of course can tamper. My friend bought a mercedes SLK with the odometer tampered.

how abt BMW?
can any bro confirm tamper-able ? any real life case (not just theoretical) ?

a 2year old e90 in sgcarmart had high mileage of close to 90K km.
if can tamper, i m sure the dealer would...unless they r too ethical to do so

 

[ryan]

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Dealers can detect that the mileage has been changed - and will not warranty the car despite the new owner taking over.

If you are buying a car - bring to the dealers to run a check on the mileage claim before taking over the car - if not you risk getting screwed over major.

 

[ElementalRealm]

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Eh. guys.. Im abit new about tampering odometer. Hope the expert can guide me abit.
If im really looking for a second hand car, what should i aware of because of tamper odometer?
Wear & tear, engine noise and??

 

[allenng]

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Can send to PML to check. If the meter is not tampered with i think the dealer is alright with u bringing to pml.

Eh. guys.. Im abit new about tampering odometer. Hope the expert can guide me abit.
If im really looking for a second hand car, what should i aware of because of tamper odometer?
Wear & tear, engine noise and??

 

[ElementalRealm]

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Can send to PML to check. If the meter is not tampered with i think the dealer is alright with u bringing to pml.

hmm true. sincere buyer plus honest seller wont stop me from doing that..
usually do a check need to pay? and the duration?