Why Am I Feeling This Way?

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DrK;829981 said:
The way I see it - it is not really about the 60.1% or 50% win or even 40% win in an election. It is the GRC system. As long as this system still stand and hold, we will still see more MIW in the parliament. This is a very unfair methodology to the oppositions. Some really weak MIW candidates can always hide behind an old horse and smuggle into parliament, against some opposition members whom most commoners have never heard of and they have to fight so hard to gain recognition and trust in a span of short election campaign stint.

If I'm right, the GRC system was created by old guards to ensure that PAP or son stays in power. Political leadership in Spore isn't about meritocracy. It is about your surname.

Ok in some defence of the GRC thing, although I do not support it....I think folliowing from what Jinooi said about clowns on the opposition camps... if it remained SMC, then we would see rookie PAP and rookie vegetable seller face opposition rookie members fighting.....then Singaporeans will either vote PAP one cos its ruling party so will be better OR vote opposition just to spite gahmen even tho he is a clown or vegetable seller face


its again the lesser of 2 evils
 
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MW;829982 said:
Ok in some defence of the GRC thing, although I do not support it....I think folliowing from what Jinooi said about clowns on the opposition camps... if it remained SMC, then we would see rookie PAP and rookie vegetable seller face opposition rookie members fighting.....then Singaporeans will either vote PAP one cos its ruling party so will be better OR vote opposition just to spite gahmen even tho he is a clown or vegetable seller face


its again the lesser of 2 evils

Agree to an extent. This is why MIW should start to liberalise political freedom, relax control of media, play fair and give some of these 'vegetable sellers' a chance to prove a point or shame themselves. Citizens are now shrewd enough to differ between good and bad, gem or garbage, capitalist or socialist. Let us screen candidates individually and fairly, instead of MIW doing this on our behalf.
 
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if bruce lee was alive and in singapore, he would have been slapped with the following charges:-
- battery and assault with a deadly weapon
- causing grievous bodily harm
- damage to private property
- disorderly behaviour in public

and the bystanders would have been charged with:-
- collusion with a criminal
- not cooperating with the police

right or not MW?
 
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jinooi;830037 said:
if bruce lee was alive and in singapore, he would have been slapped with the following charges:-
- battery and assault with a deadly weapon
- causing grievous bodily harm
- damage to private property
- disorderly behaviour in public

and the bystanders would have been charged with:-
- collusion with a criminal
- not cooperating with the police

right or not MW?

Also for inappropriately dressed. Always topless and show nn. :goodup:
 
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Ahwing;829853 said:
what i feel,

a simple analogy, your own son misbehave in your house, you can choose to punish him heavily. However, if a boy comes to your house and misbehaves, you cannot punish him like how you would punish your own son. No matter what, the boy is not your son, whatever you want to do to him you need to answer to his parents.

you must be scholar calibre, your reasoning is sharp and precise, straight to the heart of the problem.( we are a tiny red dot on the world map.)
 
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DrK;830050 said:
Also for inappropriately dressed. Always topless and show nn. :goodup:

Yah you are sharp to notice that..

Coz he always like to tear off his shirt and scream some illegible stuff..

so thats 2 charges:-

1. Indecent exposure
2. Inciting violence or sedition


if it was done outside a diplomatic place like the video, then no.2 would be amended to a charge under the Prevention of Terrorism Act

Bruce Lee would just cut his wrists...
 
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MW;830062 said:
Yah you are sharp to notice that..

Coz he always like to tear off his shirt and scream some illegible stuff..

so thats 2 charges:-

1. Indecent exposure
2. Inciting violence or sedition


if it was done outside a diplomatic place like the video, then no.2 would be amended to a charge under the Prevention of Terrorism Act

Bruce Lee would just cut his wrists...

jinooi;830037 said:
if bruce lee was alive and in singapore, he would have been slapped with the following charges:-
- battery and assault with a deadly weapon
- causing grievous bodily harm
- damage to private property
- disorderly behaviour in public

and the bystanders would have been charged with:-
- collusion with a criminal
- not cooperating with the police

right or not MW?

Hello guys, please don't forget that Mr. Lee (with all due respect as he is my idol) is a foreigner.

Remember, foreigners are only other people's kids who come into our house to play. They are not our kids, so we cannot cane them! (Ah Wing say one :laughlik: .)
 
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You just like the XMM portion, regardless of race, language, religion or political party...

C3P0;830073 said:
This is hilarious :lol2::lol2:
 
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jinooi;830037 said:
if bruce lee was alive and in singapore, he would have been slapped with the following charges:-
- battery and assault with a deadly weapon
- causing grievous bodily harm
- damage to private property
- disorderly behaviour in public

and the bystanders would have been charged with:-
- collusion with a criminal
- not cooperating with the police

right or not MW?

wrong...Bruce Lee is HongKie.....ie Foreign talent......will get off with warning n small fine.
 
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[video=youtube;11uHqISCFiU]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=11uHqISCFiU[/video]

i think our home breed generations are knocking it down..with our heads in blood..and some sai spilling out from asses..
 
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whymehor;830118 said:
The Original Ironman - YouTube

i think our home breed generations are knocking it down..with our heads in blood..and some sai spilling out from asses..

I think never in his wildest dream did he expect to see this generation knocking it down.

The current goveranance just can't hold the lids together. Alot of it is just playing with words, cover up here and there, can't face reality and self-belief. They actually believe that things are improving. Probably on balance sheet yes. On social scorecard, they fail terribly. We need to grade this carefully and fairly in 2016. Only if pure bred sporeans stand united, we can stop ourselves from knocking down what our forefathers had painstakingly built, cultivated and nurtured for the next few generations.
 
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Ok what happens if in 2016 the electorate cast 40% of the votes to PAP n the 60% to various opposition parties?

Coalition government? Then assuming WP gets the most opposition votes among the 60% cast, the next PM would be Low Thia Kiang?
 
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MW;830426 said:
Ok what happens if in 2016 the electorate cast 40% of the votes to PAP n the 60% to various opposition parties?

Coalition government? Then assuming WP gets the most opposition votes among the 60% cast, the next PM would be Low Thia Kiang?

tough to even hope for though possible...but whether Opposition can maintain support for more than 1 term be another story altogether...foreign allies/relationships cemented by the few in power now will not be easy to deal with...though we may have new foreign friends...of what kind we should see...if coalition government wants to dangle some carrots for foreign relations then perhaps finally we will come to see the 'protective' side of our President...
 
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Perhaps this was exactly what DPM Teo wanted to show those students at the dialogue (which some student fcuk him in his blog)....

Although we rant about the govt, and rightfully so, what else can we do OTHER than cast opposing votes. If anyone has a better idea to tackle social or watever issues existing, I believe even if PAP was voted out, they would feel they bloody deserved it...


....and Low as PM? Hurhur
 
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Sigh. Truth be told, I agree with MW - even if I think the present government's doing a crap job, I'm just NOT confident that the opposition is capable of doing any better... I think I'll just go hang myself at the voting booth in 2016...
 
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After reading so many pages, i realise ken is fanner.. he started this , then he run away.....

Miw will still be in power, the reason why so many cast votes to the opp , merely just to add pressure to the miw..
Showing them , ppl got balls to vote already, not like past.. so they better do their jobs better... whole sg knew the Miw will still be in ctrl, even the vote opp.....
 
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signatureincz said:
After reading so many pages, i realise ken is fanner.. he started this , then he run away.....

Miw will still be in power, the reason why so many cast votes to the opp , merely just to add pressure to the miw.. Showing them , ppl got balls to vote already, not like past.. so they better do their jobs better... whole sg knew the Miw will still be in ctrl, even the vote opp.....

I am no fanner. I am some uncle philosopher in some kopitiam. My thoughts are as follow:

First, poliitics aside, the government has somewhat confused foreign talent and foreign workers in their intended policies. Two months ago, our DPM Tharman cited a recent survey on talent migration in Taiwan that shows the stark consequences on the wages of its people from pursuing a closed-door policy against foreigners - its best and brightest were leaving the island, particularly for China as well as the United States and other countries. Citing the survey done by the East Asian Institute at the National University of Singapore (NUS), the nominal income of the average Taiwanese has flattened for more than a decade. Ironically, over here, such foreign talent/worker policy has created a wider income inequality, where (a) the wealthy income foreigners propped up the top tier income group and (b) the foreign workers suppressed the low income brackets. Granted, the inflow of wealth have benefitted the economy but not necessarily as a whole. It is a quite fix to solve investment outflow owing to the loss of manufacturing competitiveness, nothing more.

Second, the original idea of foreign talent/worker policy was to replace the declining population growth. Mr Wong Kan Seng said in 1997, “Since Singapore cannot produce enough people to come into the workforce each year, we need foreigners to sustain economic growth.” This is logical in the policy level, but a nightmare in execution. In the three largest economic segments of Singapore, manufacturing, oil/chemical and finance, the impact are entirely different. For instance, in manufacturing, a foreign engineer hire creates a suppression in wage level, while in finance, a foreign manager creates a higher benchmark for the local senior managers. This, in return, widened the income gaps. Of course, in the context of this forum, it will be hard to fathom the wage suppression impact from the foreign workers on our low-wage workers. But no matter what re-training, skills upgrading or government-induced paper talks they undergo, a local bus driver will lose out to a China bus driver, a local IT programmer will lose out to an Indian programmer..... as long as the skillsets are commoditised. How can the "peasants" ever climb out of their social holes? This, in fact, contradicts DPM Tharman's rationale on citing Taiwan's talent drain example.

Third, the government is not solving the costs issues, perhaps a direct or indirect impact from the widening income gap. Or beaucratic fats. An example is the hospitalisation costs. I can comprehend the need for more foreign nurses and doctors, but I cannot see the linkage to the rising costs of our medical costs. It is not the influx of foreign nurses and doctors which spirals the costs...... so where did the fats go? Or for instance, costs of transportation for the SMEs.... hire a foreign driver but costs still higher due to COEs..... what kind of consistency is in there for costs competitiveness? With the government owning all the major sectors and industries, and paying top dollars for the scholars, it is effectively draining the organic talents from its economy and the business running costs from its infrastructure. Eventually, everyone who is not a scholar working for the civil sector will be left to fend off the competition, with no advantage at all. This is a major setback for a economic vacuum in the middle class.

Ahwing said:
what i feel,

a simple analogy, your own son misbehave in your house, you can choose to punish him heavily. However, if a boy comes to your house and misbehaves, you cannot punish him like how you would punish your own son. No matter what, the boy is not your son, whatever you want to do to him you need to answer to his parents.

If you have adopted the boy as yours, he should undergo the same upbringing.

DrK said:
In 2000s, his son realised that population growth is undermining economic growth. Went berserk and implemented a no-hold barred immigration policy which include sucking, licking, cajoling, kum-ming all FTs.

Quick fix, but, like our national soccer team, it yields no long term results. The ranking slips lower and lower as more and more foreign players stepped onto the field.
 

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