Wikileaks: Singapore badmouths neigbours

Oilman

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Big fat red faces for Singapore leaders
December 12, 2010
MALAYSIA'S "dangerous" decline is fuelled by incompetent politicians, Thailand is dogged by corruption and a "very erratic" crown prince, Japan is a "big fat loser" and India is ''stupid''.

WikiLeaks | Singapore leaders insult Malaysia, Thailand, Japan

Hahaha we need more details :lol2:
 
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Boooomz. ....
 
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Oilman;597765 said:
Big fat red faces for Singapore leaders
December 12, 2010
MALAYSIA'S "dangerous" decline is fuelled by incompetent politicians, Thailand is dogged by corruption and a "very erratic" crown prince, Japan is a "big fat loser" and India is ''stupid''.

WikiLeaks | Singapore leaders insult Malaysia, Thailand, Japan

Hahaha we need more details :lol2:

Sometimes the Truth hurts .............
 
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haha nice one. we have potty mouth everywhere.
 
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There you go... they have just lost a few "friends". I wonder what others call Singapore as.
 
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WikiLeaks quotes taken out of context: George Yeo
By Jalelah Abu Baker & Yen Feng

THE controversial comments allegedly made by Singapore's senior diplomats were taken out of context, and were interpretations of views reflected by United States officials, said Foreign Minister George Yeo yesterday.

The comments, which Mr Yeo described as "cocktail talk", were confidential, and should not have been released.

The ministry therefore would not respond to the remarks, he said, as it would not be right to comment on what might have passed in an informal and confidential setting.

'That is what certain individuals said about others, there could be a diversity of views,' he said. 'They have probably said things about me that I don't agree with.'

He also urged the public not to read too much into the comments, said to have been taken from confidential US State Department cables released by WikiLeaks, a whistle-blowing website.

'I think it's best that we respect the confidentiality of diplomatic communications,' he said.

'People say things in a blunt, forthright way. I don't think we should divorce, even if true, what is said from the context.

'I don't think we should over-interpret such communications.'

Mr Yeo was speaking on the sidelines of a book launch at the Eurasian Association yesterday. His comments come a day after two Australian newspapers - The Sydney Morning Herald and The Age - published alleged comments made by Ministry of Foreign Affairs (MFA) officials Peter Ho, Bilahari Kausikan and Tommy Koh.

The US State Department cables reportedly detail separate meetings in 2008 and last year between the diplomats and senior US officials.

Mr Ho and Mr Kausikan were both MFA permanent secretaries at the time, and the latter still holds that position. Mr Koh is the ministry's ambassador-at-large.

The officials were quoted criticising the leaders of Malaysia, Thailand, and other countries in the region.

In one example, Professor Koh is said to have described Japan as a 'big fat loser' in the context of improving ties between China and Asean.

In another, Mr Kausikan reportedly told US Deputy Secretary of Defence for East Asia David Sedney during a meeting in September 2008 that 'the situation in neighbouring Malaysia is confused and dangerous', fuelled by a 'distinct possibility of racial conflict' that could see ethnic Chinese 'flee' Malaysia and 'overwhelm' Singapore.

At the time, then Malaysian Prime Minister Abdullah Badawi was blamed for the ruling party losing ground in a March general election, and some Malay groups were calling for a reassertion of Malay rights.

But Mr Yeo yesterday sought to play down the remarks, saying that they would not affect Singapore's diplomatic relations with other countries.

Even as he condemned WikiLeaks as 'bad practice', he added that diplomatic relations between Singapore and the US will go on. 'The diplomatic world will continue, hard subjects will still be addressed,' he said.

He also questioned if The Sunday Times should have lifted the Australian reports on the leaked cables.

'I'm not sure if The Sunday Times should be putting out all this because really, it's adding to all the melee.

'You know, it's gossip, and it doesn't help.'

Asked how the leaked cables would damage international diplomatic ties, Mr Yeo said that unlike most countries, the US has laws to protect groups who release sensitive information if they happen to have it.

He contrasted the American freedom of speech with the situation in Singapore, where under the Official Secrets Act here, leaking such confidential information is considered a crime and an offender is liable to a fine and a jail term, or is liable to prosecution.

But even as the Americans maintain their right to information, it is clear it could come at the cost of future diplomatic relations. Mr Yeo said that future diplomatic communications between countries would be more difficult.

'As if when we talk, we talk on the basis that there is a camera in the room recording everything we say,' the minister said. 'We lose something when that happens.'

And with American diplomacy, in particular, it would lead to officials treading carefully - even in private communications.

'Because, well, we can never be sure, and now since we're not sure, you should always err on (the side of) safety and manage the risk.'

Since 250,000 cables were leaked, it was inevitable that 'a few would emanate from Singapore', the minister said, adding that 'juicier bits' may come as the saga continues.

The first leaked confidential document concerning Singapore, reported last month, contained Minister Mentor Lee Kuan Yew's purported remarks that North Korean leaders are 'psychopathic types'.

Among the cables leaked, about 900 were said to be linked to Singapore.

In an earlier response, the MFA had said that it 'expressed deep concerns about the damaging action of WikiLeaks'.

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Singapore thinks Asian allies corrupt, incompetent?cables | ABS-CBN News | Latest Philippine Headlines, Breaking News, Video, Analysis, Features

Singapore thinks Asian allies corrupt, incompetent—cables
Agence France-Presse
Posted at 12/12/2010 11:40 PM | Updated as of 12/13/2010 7:59 AM

SINGAPORE - Singaporean diplomats think the leaders of some close Asian allies are corrupt, incompetent or stupid, cables from Wikileaks revealed Sunday.

Confidential diplomatic notes given by the whistleblower website to Australia's Fairfax media group contained unflattering assessments of key figures in Malaysia, Thailand, India and Japan.

"A lack of competent leadership is a real problem for Malaysia," permanent secretary for the Ministry of Foreign Affairs Bilahari Kausikan reportedly told US Deputy Secretary of Defence for East Asia David Sedney in a cable dated September 2008.

As such, "the situation in neighbouring Malaysia is confused and dangerous," fuelled by a "distinct possibility of racial conflict" that could see ethnic Chinese "flee" Malaysia and "overwhelm" Singapore, Bilahari was quoted as saying.

Another official, Peter Ho, reportedly described Malaysian Prime Minister Najib Razak as "an opportunist" who "would not hesitate" to be critical of Singapore if "it is expedient for him to do so."

He said allegations linking Najib to the murder of a Mongolian woman in 2006, which the leader has strongly rejected, would continue to "haunt" his political fortunes.

Bilahari was also critical of the Thai government in 2008, labelling then premier Thaksin Shinawatra as "corrupt" along with "everyone else, including the opposition."

He also said the Thai crown prince was "very erratic, and easily subject to influence," and warned of continued instability in Thailand.

In another 2009 memo, Singapore's ambassador at large Tommy Koh -- known for being mild-mannered and eloquent in public -- was uncharacteristically blunt in his assessment of Japan and India.

"Koh described Japan as 'the big fat loser' in the context of improving ties between China and ASEAN," a leaked cable detailing a meeting between him and US officials stated.

"He attributed the relative decline of Japan's stature in the region to Japan's 'stupidity, bad leadership, and lack of vision,'" it added.

"He was equally merciless towards India, describing his 'stupid Indian friends' as 'half in, half out' of ASEAN (the Association of Southeast Asian Nations.)"
There was no immediate reaction from the Singapore government to the leaks but the pro-government Straits Times has reproduced the potentially controversial remarks on its website.
 
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damage control? ftl
now its out in the open those not in the know will just go find out more and dig dig

they were probably used to suing ppl to prevent such things from happening here, but they can't really do much now... (they could ban the site but there are multiple mirrors now)

Mr Yeo described as "cocktail talk
talk cock indeed... hahaha
these quotes macham come out of talkingcock.com
 
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talk so much about others cannot do thier job...look what happen in SLA where people can own lambo without check..knn....
 
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Mockngbrd;597946 said:
damage control? ftl
now its out in the open those not in the know will just go find out more and dig dig

they were probably used to suing ppl to prevent such things from happening here, but they can't really do much now... (they could ban the site but there are multiple mirrors now)

talk cock indeed... hahaha
these quotes macham come out of talkingcock.com

I gotta say i can't agree more... and i guess the oppositions and dissidents must be having a good laugh now... Especially the Late Joshua Benjamin Jeyeratnam father of SC Philip Jeyeratnam.
 
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nice way of calling Talking Cock, Cocktail Talk by Mr Yeo lol, bely high clat
 
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All these leaks are alarming and will inevitably damage our cross border relations..senseless
 

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