2012 GTR shaves 6secs off 'Ring time'. 0-60 in 2.9seconds!

[timechaser]

Re: 2012 GTR shaves 6secs off 'Ring time'. 0-60 in 2.9seconds!

K. Next track day you and I can make - lets do it. Though I might need a driver for the GTR to equalise the driver skill factor

 

[totoseow]

Re: 2012 GTR shaves 6secs off 'Ring time'. 0-60 in 2.9seconds!

dun worry we swap car. i will not kelong.

 

[yavimaya]

Re: 2012 GTR shaves 6secs off 'Ring time'. 0-60 in 2.9seconds!

ya me too...no road race. lets start with the lamb vs gtr.

im betting on the gtr

 

[Shaun]

Re: 2012 GTR shaves 6secs off 'Ring time'. 0-60 in 2.9seconds!

might not have been as hot as some of the hotshots here think hot should be)

No need to opine...and can forget what any one else opines too. The quantity will speak for itself, especially relative to the cloud of other known quantities. So what is it? What was the 8 lap average and the median laptime?

the amount of money you have to punt up to buy a GTR is quite good given the performance which comes out of the box - no mods.

No doubt, but the only thing people are pointing out is that on track and if pushed hard, it does not last. Unless you throw lots more money at the stock car.

Reaching to the other side - a little bit more in parts, the GTR will still be south of $400 but it will smoke 99.9% of the cars out there. Some of which cost much much more.

Maybe... no one has done it yet though it seems...wonder why. At trackdays, there are all sorts of cars that run lap after lap until full tank is dry at laptimes very close to their best (and not slow either)

Best transponded example seen of a GTR was a a certain workshop GTR at a competition that went around 6 - 7 hot laps, and all of them quite fast. But that GTR was one of those that had lots of money spent on it.... and the tires were still going away quickly because of its weight.

Just the opinion of a GTR owner - which is obviously biased.

You're the president of the Singapore GTR owners club no? So can you be considered ultra biased?

 

[timechaser]

Re: 2012 GTR shaves 6secs off 'Ring time'. 0-60 in 2.9seconds!

No need to opine...and can forget what any one else opines too. The quantity will speak for itself, especially relative to the cloud of other known quantities. So what is it? What was the 8 lap average and the median laptime?

No doubt, but the only thing people are pointing out is that on track and if pushed hard, it does not last. Unless you throw lots more money at the stock car.

Maybe... no one has done it yet though it seems...wonder why. At trackdays, there are all sorts of cars that run lap after lap until full tank is dry at laptimes very close to their best (and not slow either)

Best transponded example seen of a GTR was a a certain workshop GTR at a competition that went around 6 - 7 hot laps, and all of them quite fast. But that GTR was one of those that had lots of money spent on it.... and the tires were still going away quickly because of its weight.

You're the president of the Singapore GTR owners club no? So can you be considered ultra biased?

Laptimes were around the 2:40 mark mostly. Didnt measure scientifically.

As for cooling systems which makes the car run time and again - they are not that expensive. Why people here have'nt done it - simply because everyone is obsessed with horsepower.

I know people in the US who have created stripped track cars from the GTR with minor tunes and loads of cooling which can do lap after lap for long times.

And yes, I am the president of the GTR club, and ultra biased. But I do own a GTR. Which gives me an insider's viewpoint of the car rather than an internet warrior's. No offence intended.

 

[Shaun]

Re: 2012 GTR shaves 6secs off 'Ring time'. 0-60 in 2.9seconds!

Many if not all trackday organizer frown on racing at their trackdays. There's probably no point, and it's no good, racing at trackdays - especially if the ability to turn a decently quick solo lap doesn't exist.

If you book your own track slot and it's purely your friends and yourself.. then by all means go ahead, but not when other track users are around please, thanks.

 

[Shaun]

Re: 2012 GTR shaves 6secs off 'Ring time'. 0-60 in 2.9seconds!

I know people in the US who have created stripped track cars from the GTR with minor tunes and loads of cooling which can do lap after lap for long times.

You must know this because of the internet. All hail the internet!

Oh and what relevance does a stripped out track GTR have vs road registered and road legal GTRs that are tracked?

And yes, I am the president of the GTR club, and ultra biased. But I do own a GTR. Which gives me an insider's viewpoint of the car rather than an internet warrior's. No offence intended.

Sorry but 2:40s in a GTR already explains why you could go 8 laps. Enough said
And the 2:40s are claimed.. might have been 2:45 for all anyone knows. 4% is a heap. 4 - 8 % is a mountain.

So says this internet warrior, who does not have data from multiple GTR drivers across multiple GTRs, who has never himself driven GTRs to sustained laptimes far quicker than 2:40, resulting in warning light and limp mode occuring from overtemp, etc.

BTW, many GTR owners disagree with self-appointed club presidents. Would you like a freebie sir?

 

[timechaser]

Re: 2012 GTR shaves 6secs off 'Ring time'. 0-60 in 2.9seconds!

You must know this because of the internet. All hail the internet!

Oh and what relevance does a stripped out track GTR have vs road registered and road legal GTRs that are tracked?

Nope. I know the owner of one personally, and personally know two workshops who kitted them out. Personally here means I have met them, had lunch and drinks with them. Not just via the interweb.

Sorry but 2:40s in a GTR already explains why you could go 8 laps. Enough said
And the 2:40s are claimed.. might have been 2:45 for all anyone knows. 4% is a heap. 4 - 8 % is a mountain.

Which is why I already said in my first post - 8 laps. I did call them hot but I also commented, if you scroll up - that they might not even be considered hot by the hot shots here. So I am wrong. Pfft. Not the first time.

Would you like a freebie sir?

Yup. A tall tazo chai tea latte, skimmed milk please. Starbucks. Since you have a fast car, you can get it to my office fairly fast, no?

 

[totoseow]

Re: 2012 GTR shaves 6secs off 'Ring time'. 0-60 in 2.9seconds!

shaun not racing with him. puneet is a friend. lets stop this OT n go back to thread starters.

 

[Shaun]

Re: 2012 GTR shaves 6secs off 'Ring time'. 0-60 in 2.9seconds!

Nope. I know the owner of one personally, and personally know two workshops who kitted them out. Personally here means I have met them, had lunch and drinks with them. Not just via the interweb.

And the relevance to local road reg GTRs that track at local tracks in local weather is??

Yup. A tall tazo chai tea latte, skimmed milk please. Starbucks. Since you have a fast car, you can get it to my office fairly fast, no?

What a girly drink! Nevertheless, I will do my best. I'll be storming down in my stock GTR, but if I'm not there within 10 minutes, it just means it has overheated and stopped somewhere along the CTE... send rescue, thanks

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Toto, ok.. good cover for being scared of GTRs!

 

[totoseow]

Re: 2012 GTR shaves 6secs off 'Ring time'. 0-60 in 2.9seconds!

data face. i aint afraid of no GTRs. u know that prick. they r very close to my car...
what i do know: i can hang out longer than them on track. n if they last as long as me like in maximus car.....then its down to driver and tires. james hv beaten me b4 and i beat him once. the other GTRs i hv encountered r mostly in the 231 to 236 areas.

im proposing to puneet...if he permits, let me drive his car a few laps. logged it.

 

[Shaun]

Re: 2012 GTR shaves 6secs off 'Ring time'. 0-60 in 2.9seconds!

that's cool
but just know that quality logs of stock gtrs and bpu gtrs are everywhere so their performance is known
and unless his car has a lot spent on it, by the 3rd lap you'll be forced to abandon lap and limp it around in cooldown
so not sure if anything new will be learned

 

[timechaser]

Re: 2012 GTR shaves 6secs off 'Ring time'. 0-60 in 2.9seconds!

data face. i aint afraid of no GTRs. u know that prick. they r very close to my car...
what i do know: i can hang out longer than them on track. n if they last as long as me like in maximus car.....then its down to driver and tires. james hv beaten me b4 and i beat him once. the other GTRs i hv encountered r mostly in the 231 to 236 areas.

im proposing to puneet...if he permits, let me drive his car a few laps. logged it.

Done.

And shaun - I havent spent lots on my car. Just a few basic mods in freeing up the exhaust note.

If it limps - so be it! If it doesn't - so be it.

And I know Toto's not afraid of my GTR - he is faster!

 

[Shaun]

Re: 2012 GTR shaves 6secs off 'Ring time'. 0-60 in 2.9seconds!

I was kidding about him being afraid... just getting him riled heheh

If it doesn't limp he's not driving hard enough and it'll show in the data anyway.

 

[totoseow]

Re: 2012 GTR shaves 6secs off 'Ring time'. 0-60 in 2.9seconds!

i dun think there is much to b proved for the GTRs as far as im concerned. too many variables. we hv seen 2:19 GTRs...n we have seen 2:40 types.
my whole point being in this discussion is to disprove that the GTR is track focus. its a good time attack car. n very few hv done the right mods to make it a track focus car.

 

[Shaun]

Re: 2012 GTR shaves 6secs off 'Ring time'. 0-60 in 2.9seconds!

my whole point being in this discussion is to disprove that the GTR is track focus. its a good time attack car. n very few hv done the right mods to make it a track focus car.

Agree with you, and there is already data to show this. Even without data and just observing at track events, others know this.

Those that do not observe closely, or test and measure, will not know this, and no matter what you may log, write, say, they will not change their minds. Often times these people are either unwilling or incapable of understanding basic concepts, or people who don't even track or aren't even interested in it.

It truly is not worth your time, or the wear and tear on your car or Puneet's car to try and prove it to such a group. That group is nearly as pathetic as my group - my group being the internet warrior one.

 

[timechaser]

Re: 2012 GTR shaves 6secs off 'Ring time'. 0-60 in 2.9seconds!

...That group is nearly as pathetic as my group - my group being the internet warrior one.

Lord! Enough of the self pity

Let's just try and see how many laps can be wrung out. Will try to ensure I have fresh trans oil in the car before the test!

 

[totoseow]

Re: 2012 GTR shaves 6secs off 'Ring time'. 0-60 in 2.9seconds!

for my car...its always the tires that goes. if i want to drive longer than 6 hot laps...i hv to watch my tires n not scrub it.

 

[Shaun]

Re: 2012 GTR shaves 6secs off 'Ring time'. 0-60 in 2.9seconds!

Ok cool you two.. have fun, be safe..

Cheers

 

[timechaser]

Re: 2012 GTR shaves 6secs off 'Ring time'. 0-60 in 2.9seconds!

for my car...its always the tires that goes. if i want to drive longer than 6 hot laps...i hv to watch my tires n not scrub it.

That's what happened in my not-so-hot laps last time. The tire pressures peaked and control was gone.