Any way to remove start/stop function?
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Slow_poke_driver
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Re: Any way to remove start/stop function?
PML disable start-stop need to pay $$$?
MA tell me need to buy some activation code, few hundred $$$ leh
PML disable start-stop need to pay $$$?
MA tell me need to buy some activation code, few hundred $$$ leh
Steptronic
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Re: Any way to remove start/stop function?
Is it advised to disable the auto start / stop? I thought it would be advantage to have that!
Is it advised to disable the auto start / stop? I thought it would be advantage to have that!
wt_know
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Re: Any way to remove start/stop function?
if only the start/stop is sibei good and work perfectly that you don't even notice it.
however, it jerks like siao and i think start/stop will damage the gearbox and engine pre-maturely resulting more parts to be serviced/changed. i'm sure bmw engineer will argue this point.
it's a tradeoff ... you want to save $10 on fuel per tank or you want vroom vroom and shiok shiok driving
start/stop would be good for bangkok and jakarta traffic that each stop (interval) is > 5mins
if only the start/stop is sibei good and work perfectly that you don't even notice it.
however, it jerks like siao and i think start/stop will damage the gearbox and engine pre-maturely resulting more parts to be serviced/changed. i'm sure bmw engineer will argue this point.
it's a tradeoff ... you want to save $10 on fuel per tank or you want vroom vroom and shiok shiok driving
start/stop would be good for bangkok and jakarta traffic that each stop (interval) is > 5mins
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Slow_poke_driver
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Re: Any way to remove start/stop function?
Good to know pml can do for free.
Here is why start stop is super irrelevant here:
1. Any time when you come to a complete stop like when at the "stop" line, the engine shuts down. If you immediately release the brake pedal as you noticed the circle/junction/slip road is clear, the car responds with a sudden violent jerk. Can't imagine what it does to the gearbox in that instance.
2. Our traffic jams here are crazy. Imagine, you are in those stop, move 2 car length, stop, move 2 car length type of traffic. How many times you want to restart the engine sia? Oh, and the ASS is very intrusive.
3. BMW was telling a lie when they said ASS does not affect air-con on hot days. It does, and severely does. Problem is, we only have hot days.
4. Ever been at a busy circle/junction without traffic light? Some times it is really that small little gap within traffic that allows you to filter out. Unforunately, you can't because by the time the ASS restarts the engine, too late liao.
5. As far as local bmw service cost is concerned, I rather burn an extra insignificant $10/month on petrol at the traffic light, than to have to spend $500 on battery, 1k on the starter motor and another few grand on the gearbox from excessive ASS.
Good to know pml can do for free.
Here is why start stop is super irrelevant here:
1. Any time when you come to a complete stop like when at the "stop" line, the engine shuts down. If you immediately release the brake pedal as you noticed the circle/junction/slip road is clear, the car responds with a sudden violent jerk. Can't imagine what it does to the gearbox in that instance.
2. Our traffic jams here are crazy. Imagine, you are in those stop, move 2 car length, stop, move 2 car length type of traffic. How many times you want to restart the engine sia? Oh, and the ASS is very intrusive.
3. BMW was telling a lie when they said ASS does not affect air-con on hot days. It does, and severely does. Problem is, we only have hot days.
4. Ever been at a busy circle/junction without traffic light? Some times it is really that small little gap within traffic that allows you to filter out. Unforunately, you can't because by the time the ASS restarts the engine, too late liao.
5. As far as local bmw service cost is concerned, I rather burn an extra insignificant $10/month on petrol at the traffic light, than to have to spend $500 on battery, 1k on the starter motor and another few grand on the gearbox from excessive ASS.
Re: Any way to remove start/stop function?
I couldn't agree more! It's really irrelevant, cost my new car it's fuel pump. PML managed to deactivate ASS by setting it off on default.
QUOTE=Slow_poke_driver;868801]Good to know pml can do for free.
Here is why start stop is super irrelevant here:
1. Any time when you come to a complete stop like when at the "stop" line, the engine shuts down. If you immediately release the brake pedal as you noticed the circle/junction/slip road is clear, the car responds with a sudden violent jerk. Can't imagine what it does to the gearbox in that instance.
2. Our traffic jams here are crazy. Imagine, you are in those stop, move 2 car length, stop, move 2 car length type of traffic. How many times you want to restart the engine sia? Oh, and the ASS is very intrusive.
3. BMW was telling a lie when they said ASS does not affect air-con on hot days. It does, and severely does. Problem is, we only have hot days.
4. Ever been at a busy circle/junction without traffic light? Some times it is really that small little gap within traffic that allows you to filter out. Unforunately, you can't because by the time the ASS restarts the engine, too late liao.
5. As far as local bmw service cost is concerned, I rather burn an extra insignificant $10/month on petrol at the traffic light, than to have to spend $500 on battery, 1k on the starter motor and another few grand on the gearbox from excessive ASS.[/QUOTE]
I couldn't agree more! It's really irrelevant, cost my new car it's fuel pump. PML managed to deactivate ASS by setting it off on default.
QUOTE=Slow_poke_driver;868801]Good to know pml can do for free.
Here is why start stop is super irrelevant here:
1. Any time when you come to a complete stop like when at the "stop" line, the engine shuts down. If you immediately release the brake pedal as you noticed the circle/junction/slip road is clear, the car responds with a sudden violent jerk. Can't imagine what it does to the gearbox in that instance.
2. Our traffic jams here are crazy. Imagine, you are in those stop, move 2 car length, stop, move 2 car length type of traffic. How many times you want to restart the engine sia? Oh, and the ASS is very intrusive.
3. BMW was telling a lie when they said ASS does not affect air-con on hot days. It does, and severely does. Problem is, we only have hot days.
4. Ever been at a busy circle/junction without traffic light? Some times it is really that small little gap within traffic that allows you to filter out. Unforunately, you can't because by the time the ASS restarts the engine, too late liao.
5. As far as local bmw service cost is concerned, I rather burn an extra insignificant $10/month on petrol at the traffic light, than to have to spend $500 on battery, 1k on the starter motor and another few grand on the gearbox from excessive ASS.[/QUOTE]
wobbles
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Re: Any way to remove start/stop function?
Bro, I don't have the violent jerk issue leh... on the times I play with the ASS function (eg. when I feel like really pushing Eco Pro to the max), the car starts almost whisper-silent and there's just the almost imperceptible vibration of the engine turning over. There's no lurching, no jerking and definitely no shuddering. Maybe something's not quite set right with your settings?
Just my 2 cents' worth - but anyway, I hardly ever use the ASS since I've gotten it programmed to permanently "off"
Slow_poke_driver;868801 said:
Bro, I don't have the violent jerk issue leh... on the times I play with the ASS function (eg. when I feel like really pushing Eco Pro to the max), the car starts almost whisper-silent and there's just the almost imperceptible vibration of the engine turning over. There's no lurching, no jerking and definitely no shuddering. Maybe something's not quite set right with your settings?
Just my 2 cents' worth - but anyway, I hardly ever use the ASS since I've gotten it programmed to permanently "off"
Slow_poke_driver
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Re: Any way to remove start/stop function?
It does not always happen. Only once in many many times of ass, in a certain situation. Something like what companies will call "phenomenon" in their technical release. Normally, there is no jerking if say like restarting at the traffic light.
It only happens when you come to a complete stop and then you release the brake pedal immediately when the engine cut off.
Just imagine, you driving towards a circle without traffic light(like the one near MA). You forgot that ass is on. Like usual, slowly roll toward the circle. See a big lorry coming from the side, you slowly brake. As you come to a complete stop, the lorry already pass liao. So, you release the brake right at the moment engine cut off. The whole car will give a violent jerk, like throwing the clutch on a "L" plate manual car in first gear.
There is some timing to it. Like that split second. So the amplitude of jerk will depend on when exactly you throw the brake pedal.
wobbles;869275 said:Bro, I don't have the violent jerk issue leh... on the times I play with the ASS function (eg. when I feel like really pushing Eco Pro to the max), the car starts almost whisper-silent and there's just the almost imperceptible vibration of the engine turning over. There's no lurching, no jerking and definitely no shuddering. Maybe something's not quite set right with your settings?
Just my 2 cents' worth - but anyway, I hardly ever use the ASS since I've gotten it programmed to permanently "off"
It does not always happen. Only once in many many times of ass, in a certain situation. Something like what companies will call "phenomenon" in their technical release. Normally, there is no jerking if say like restarting at the traffic light.
It only happens when you come to a complete stop and then you release the brake pedal immediately when the engine cut off.
Just imagine, you driving towards a circle without traffic light(like the one near MA). You forgot that ass is on. Like usual, slowly roll toward the circle. See a big lorry coming from the side, you slowly brake. As you come to a complete stop, the lorry already pass liao. So, you release the brake right at the moment engine cut off. The whole car will give a violent jerk, like throwing the clutch on a "L" plate manual car in first gear.
There is some timing to it. Like that split second. So the amplitude of jerk will depend on when exactly you throw the brake pedal.
Re: Any way to remove start/stop function?
so that means that with the coding, it will remember the last setting.
with this new coding, if i turn ASS off, it will always remember that i want it off ... but ASS can also be turned on as required.
whoa cool!
many thanks!
EleBest;869510 said:
so that means that with the coding, it will remember the last setting.
with this new coding, if i turn ASS off, it will always remember that i want it off ... but ASS can also be turned on as required.
whoa cool!
many thanks!
