CAD arrests 5 City Harvest Church members

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Baby1M;842170 said:
Do u have vacancy for positions like founding members for the inner circle? I want :cloud9:

can be back-dated...first...how much you want to contribute?
 
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VolanteDB9;842177 said:
can be back-dated...first...how much you want to contribute?
No money but I contribute effort can? :p
 
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VolanteDB9;842177 said:
can be back-dated...first...how much you want to contribute?

what is the price for 'fast tracked, super duper atas beyond first class... red carpet, can siam immigration, long queues, customs, form filling' route? $2 can? toto ask one....
 
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I just realised something....

A politician must be a good orator but in the end he needs to deliver on what he says.. eg: more jobs, better economy etc

A religious leader who is a good orator does NOT need to deliver on what he says..burn more joss papers, your reincarnation in the next life will be a human and not a dog

wah...best!
 
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dpointt;842102 said:
why is the main person in the whole saga, Ho Sun still able to walk off free? Isn't she the source of all this trouble
Surely as the wife and founding member, she is somewhat involved in the whole scheme???

Are we that naive to believe that she only sings and dance all this time in US and being typically ignorant and apathy about the funds??

She cant be charge, she's a god like figure in harvest. (i read it somewhere)
Maybe she can cleanse sins of dirty sinful man ? and save their souls....
 
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ticket to heaven ... the besterest
no KPI can assess that ticket ....

MW;842192 said:
I just realised something....

A politician must be a good orator but in the end he needs to deliver on what he says.. eg: more jobs, better economy etc

A religious leader who is a good orator does NOT need to deliver on what he says..burn more joss papers, your reincarnation in the next life will be a human and not a dog

wah...best!
 
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I suppose we should be grateful that this man used his great oratorical skills to take only money instead of taking lives, for the promise of a heavenly afterlife.
 
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marklee;842200 said:
I suppose we should be grateful that this man used his great oratorical skills to take only money instead of taking lives, for the promise of a heavenly afterlife.

or how about this?

Warren Jeffs: Jailed polygamist paedophile chooses 15 men to father ALL future FLDS children | Mail Online

Polygamous leader Warren Jeffs has issued a new command to his sect from his jail cell - the names of 15 men he has chosen to father all future children of his church.
The Fundamentalist Latter-Day Saints Church leader is serving a 130-year sentence at Powledge Unit near Palestine, Texas, for systematic child sex assault and marrying underage girls.
Jeffs, 56, still has around 10,000 believers in the towns of Hildale, Utah and Colorado City, Arizona.
Former FLDS member Isaac Wyler told Deseret News that the rules were explained to the congregation at a Sunday service two weeks ago.
He said: 'They said there had been 15 men delegated or designated by God to sire the new, special children.'
According to other reports, men who are not among the chosen few will have to remain under a 'no sex ban' that Jeffs demanded last year.
He declared that all marriages are void until he can return and 'seal' them.
The response from his congregation has been polarizing. For many, the ban on sex was the last straw. Families have begun fleeing the church - and after the latest command, it has been rumored that many more were planning to escape.
Husbands were said to be extremely unhappy that their wives will be made available to the 'chosen 15' with their roles essentially reduced to caretakers and financial providers, Deseret News reported.


Calls made to Rod Parker, a lawyer who has represented the FLDS Church in the past, were not returned to MailOnline.
The new directive seemed to counter another of Jeffs' revelations last month when the prison inmate said that abusing women was wrong.

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Harem: Dozens of the 56-year-old's 78 brides, some of whom were as young as 12, with Jeffs fathering a child by a wife who was only 15

He wrote: 'Let women be free, to be educated, to have full protection from abuse, ye nations.
'Let this truth awaken all to have life, yea, individual lives, in order, a holy Way of living my law of love for all, through pure way living on World.'
His sect practices polygamy in arranged marriages that have sometimes involved underage girls.
Jeffs was convicted last year of sexually assaulting two of his many underage brides when they were 12 and 15 in the notorious case.
He was said to have at least 78 plural wives, according to court documents.
The further mandates by Jeffs came as voters in a tiny Utah town threw out a measure that would have dissolved their town government - amid fears that polygamists could seize an opportunity to widen their municipal borders and 'swallow us up'.
Apple Valley residents voting 167 to 115 against disbanding the town government. It had been suggested that neighboring Hildale - a town controlled by Jeffs - could stage a municipal takeover if the town were to abolish itself.

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MW;842192 said:
I just realised something....

A politician must be a good orator but in the end he needs to deliver on what he says.. eg: more jobs, better economy etc

A religious leader who is a good orator does NOT need to deliver on what he says..burn more joss papers, your reincarnation in the next life will be a human and not a dog

wah...best!

Some exceptions to your first paragraph. If you are a great orator politician like the guy in my avatar, yes you are deep in shite thinking of economic growth, stimulus and lowering unemployment rate. Especially that this year is Presidential election year, more needs to weigh on his words.

Now on this island, you don't have to be a great orator (in fact not even an orator also can, some say mee siam mai ham, some say pizza, some say honest mistake lets move on and more), deliver nothing, add on to more problems, provide no solutions and still get paid millions! No scrutiny. No judgement. No case. No problem! You walk on the red carpet you asked your subjects to lay for you. Fantastic isn't it?
 
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Any guys been to those "concert like mass" at CHC before? Can u go every day without paying ?
 
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DrK;842206 said:
Some exceptions to your first paragraph. If you are a great orator politician like the guy in my avatar, yes you are deep in shite thinking of economic growth, stimulus and lowering unemployment rate. Especially that this year is Presidential election year, more needs to weigh on his words.

Now on this island, you don't have to be a great orator (in fact not even an orator also can, some say mee siam mai ham, some say pizza, some say honest mistake lets move on and more), deliver nothing, add on to more problems, provide no solutions and still get paid millions! No scrutiny. No judgement. No case. No problem! You walk on the red carpet you asked your subjects to lay for you. Fantastic isn't it?

even if the politician is not a good orator but he still needs to deliver some results during his term and then he gets "judged" at the polls..

But a religious leader can just say "If you bathe in water everyday with flowers, u will avoid at least 13 levels of Hell. The Monkey God told me one. Now give me ang bao for tat divine advice..."
 
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MW;842213 said:
even if the politician is not a good orator but he still needs to deliver some results during his term and then he gets "judged" at the polls..

But a religious leader can just say "If you bathe in water everyday with flowers, u will avoid at least 13 levels of Hell. The Monkey God told me one. Now give me ang bao for tat divine advice..."

but many dang kee will ask for $2 only in the ang bao...

apparently so divine if you give more than that 'they know' and ask you take back the extra @_@
 
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matrock;842207 said:
Any guys been to those "concert like mass" at CHC before? Can u go every day without paying ?

You can go as many times as you want. But they would continue pressuring you to give, until you break. They actually do all this with good intentions, cause they really wana "save" your life.

I admit I actually went before cause my good army buddy keep on asking me to go.....all I can say is I was traumatised, even though at that point I was still an avid church goer.
 
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marklee;842221 said:
You can go as many times as you want. But they would continue pressuring you to give, until you break. They actually do all this with good intentions, cause they really wana "save" your life.

no no no...they just want to make your life better...so they lead by example first...
 
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naan1974;842196 said:
She cant be charge, she's a god like figure in harvest. (i read it somewhere)
Maybe she can cleanse sins of dirty sinful man ? and save their souls....

The 'Crossover Project' is a good idea by marrying songs and religion as to make it more vibrant, relevant and interesting to all their targeted audiences

I wouldn't mind if they are like those gospel singers such as Amy Grant and Jars of Clay; or even Whoopi's rendition in her Sister Act movie some years back...

But what relation is this type of music she is promoting in US got to do with CHC or Christianity?

... But to their surprise, many young people, most of them un-churched, came to the church night after night, not to listen to the preaching but to watch Sun leading praise and worship. They loved her colored hair, her pop culture look, and they loved the pop songs she sang in between the worship songs.....

I just can't comprehend nor understand the logic in it... thus FAITH > SCIENCE!! :(

» 10 Years Of The Crossover Project
 
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dpointt;842223 said:
I just can't comprehend nor understand the logic in it... thus FAITH > SCIENCE!! :(

I also cannot comprehend how your statement leads to your conclusion that Faith > Science.
 

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