Re: Degree no good ..... just get a good job
DrK;987737 said:
Degrees are definitely necessary for some specialized jobs. For most jobs, a degree might not be necessary (although I'm skeptical about this as you would have learnt even some useful bits from lectures and textbooks even if attend a really ulu uni which you apply at work) but it has become a must because of peer pressure, competition and influx of cheap qualified professionals from abroad.
No sensible parents will tell their kids not to study hard and not pursue university if he/she can. Unless the parents are filthy rich and have a business empire to hand over or the offsprings are so talented in a sport or art that it is worth the risk to skip uni. Ask dear Mr Khaw why he even bother to send (or thinking of sending) his daughters to universities (and I bet they have to be good overseas one)? Talk the talk, so walk the walk right? GONG JIAO WAY that is why. His employer pays him to talk, so even if talk trash he get paid.
Who remembers about 15-20 years ago, some govt propaganda urged students to take up engineering courses in uni and polys? Those institutions were receiving engin undergrads in record numbers. Because they were building up R&D, manufacturing and pharma industries.... how many of them were left without a job when financial crises hit Asia in 1997, 2001 and 2008? How many of those who studied engin then are still engineers today? Mostly not because 'tan boh jia', especially with the influx of cheap programmers and engineers from India and PRC. Now govt tells you not to go uni. And some morons will believe? Who will feed these morons next time who heeded govt advice? Govt? Tan gu gu...
Just another brainwash activity or another jia liao bee talking for the sake of making noise. What's next? Import more FTs with no degrees?
This Khaw is not the best guy to be speaking in public really, the way he phrase his sentences... quite fail. But I would have interpreted his advise as "getting a good job is more important than getting a good degree".
Sure, nobody is stopping you from furthering education.
Is there a shortage of engineers or programmers today? I can tell you - YES.
Are FTs taking away these jobs? I can tell you also - I think, YES.
But why Stinkaporeans say they tan bo jiak? Actually is not that there are no jobs out there. Unemployment is 2%! Everybody has a job. It's just that degree grads expectations really too high nowadays that people rather employ diploma grads. Degree grads are demanding, sometimes obnoxious and really difficult to manage. Poly grads at least will guai guai do the work. You know a fresh NUS grad these days want $3K base salary? Including CPF and AWS, that is actually $3.8K+/mth!
Unemployment is 2%. Everybody has a job! The good one, the bad one, all got job. There's no sense of worry. We *are* getting complacent.
I see people in office everyday surfing forum *AHEEM*, browsing Gmarket, surfing for new Hermes bag or Rolex watch... these guys are as good as sitting out on the beach! Datelines still cannot meet, give a lot of excuse, say busy, then suddenly MC for 2 days. Kid kena HFMD, GF pregnant, urgent leave, this and that.
Maybe I am sway, but this is really the kind of fresh grads we get these days, do you guys know or experience that? Maybe you see your colleague doing that and you don't feel anything, but as an employer you will want to kill these people I tell you... given that some of us still have some compassion and give people benefit of doubt, in other countries they would have been duly fired.
I'm not saying foreigners are all good, there are certainly bad eggs... but you tell the fucker to go home, they suddenly become guai guai. You tell a Singaporean to go home... they just quit lah. So easy to find new job. Why? Unemployment is 2%. Somemore change job get pay raise!
Looking on the flip side of the coin, employers also have to make ends meet. If today I sell char kuay teow and my chef demands $10K/mth + OT, the char kuay teow will need to sell $25/plate + service charge + GST. After 6pm still have to charge 1.5x normal price.
I'm both an employer and an employee, so I see both sides of the coin. It is really a difficult thing to deal with. Some unemployment is a good thing. Bring some people back to reality.
