Re: E46 M3 CSL or E82 1 Series Coupe???
I made myself clear when i used the term 'reliably'. Yes the newer cars indeed has to prove its worth. No question about that. Let me rephrase it since we are getting all tangled up.
1. The 335 ONLY requires a piggback to extract 100 ponies. Nothing else has to be changed or replaced to run it. How many items do you similarly need to change on the Evo retrospectively? All this refers to ease of modding. I am not in a debate on the extent of modding to give you the same power. To some changing 2 or more items is fine to get the power. To some, they would like to leave everything that is physically stock in the car and play with the ECU (Software side) for power.
2. The 335 do not hold traction well after an increase in power because it doesnt have the 4wd system like the EVOs which have been proven in rallies and road racing. To have 50hp less in an evo and 50hp more in a 335, I would rather have 50hp less and able to put down the power. Power is nothing without control.
In light of the points mentioned above, I clearly define that the 335 is a much easier car to modify for fast extraction of power without changing anything physically. Especially, for those who are not all out for max power but for a little oomph.
Crufty Dusty;320637 said:And I don't think you are understanding what I'm saying either... on the one hand you allow the 335 a piggyback to raise the power by 100 bhp yet you deny a street legal exhaust and intake with reflash on an Evo? How is that a fair comparison when the very definition of a piggyback is that it's not stock?
You do not need to change your cams, internals or the turbo to get 100 bhp more out of an Evo or to use it reliably. It is 4WD so no traction issues. The car and engine has been proven in rally and road course racing for years, so I don't see why the need to bring reliability into the discussion. A reasonable person would expect the newer car to prove its worth instead.
I made myself clear when i used the term 'reliably'. Yes the newer cars indeed has to prove its worth. No question about that. Let me rephrase it since we are getting all tangled up.
1. The 335 ONLY requires a piggback to extract 100 ponies. Nothing else has to be changed or replaced to run it. How many items do you similarly need to change on the Evo retrospectively? All this refers to ease of modding. I am not in a debate on the extent of modding to give you the same power. To some changing 2 or more items is fine to get the power. To some, they would like to leave everything that is physically stock in the car and play with the ECU (Software side) for power.
2. The 335 do not hold traction well after an increase in power because it doesnt have the 4wd system like the EVOs which have been proven in rallies and road racing. To have 50hp less in an evo and 50hp more in a 335, I would rather have 50hp less and able to put down the power. Power is nothing without control.
In light of the points mentioned above, I clearly define that the 335 is a much easier car to modify for fast extraction of power without changing anything physically. Especially, for those who are not all out for max power but for a little oomph.