F30 Teething Problems
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detach8
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Re: F30 Teething Problems
I'm not entirely surprised. The 3er and 1er are made in South Africa and it's known first few batches might have some small issues.
As long as the car is not breakin down, I would live with some noise and get it fixed a little later on once they know where all the common issues are. Let somebody else be the scapegoat.
I'm not entirely surprised. The 3er and 1er are made in South Africa and it's known first few batches might have some small issues.
As long as the car is not breakin down, I would live with some noise and get it fixed a little later on once they know where all the common issues are. Let somebody else be the scapegoat.
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Mentholatum
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Re: F30 Teething Problems
Hey bro, loan cars are not allowed to be driven into Malaysia. Applies to all ADs.
Growler;845939 said:
Hey bro, loan cars are not allowed to be driven into Malaysia. Applies to all ADs.
Re: F30 Teething Problems
Sound insulation problem has it got to do with the batches and place of manufacture? I am asking because the initial batch was from Germany and the new batch from South Africa. I test drive 328i back in Mar'12 and the sound proofing seems ok.
tomcat;845985 said:
Sound insulation problem has it got to do with the batches and place of manufacture? I am asking because the initial batch was from Germany and the new batch from South Africa. I test drive 328i back in Mar'12 and the sound proofing seems ok.
detach8
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Re: F30 Teething Problems
Well for a $210K car with a $50K margin going to BMW Asia + PML (don't know and don't care how they split it) I think these expectations are reasonable. Like I said I was testing the 2012 A4, and right away after that I went to PML and tested the F30 320i. The difference was *really* obvious.
Not so much of road noise (partially blame the run flats there) but the wind and especially the engine noise was apparent. The 1.8T engine in the Audi was so much smoother. It is a pity the A4 1.8T is a FWD. If they offered the 1.8T with Quattro I would have gone with the A4.
The rear doors on the F30 were also noticeably lighter and did not close with a firm thud that my old E90 320i did. IMHO the entire fit an finish of the F30 is a disappointment. The *only* improvement was the engine (over the N46 in the 320i) and the iDrive. For 328i I think the old N52 engines were better. I'm not too optimistic about the reliability of forced-induction engine and the type of service intervals we are recommended by BMW given the historical sludge problems when BMW said it was OK to do an oil change every 25,000km on the E90s.
If you have read another thread where I gave my feedback during the initial launch of the F30, you will know why I went for the F10 instead. If given a choice and not for the completely f**ked up prices of the second hand market right now I will gladly buy an E90 323i or 325i instead.
Well for a $210K car with a $50K margin going to BMW Asia + PML (don't know and don't care how they split it) I think these expectations are reasonable. Like I said I was testing the 2012 A4, and right away after that I went to PML and tested the F30 320i. The difference was *really* obvious.
Not so much of road noise (partially blame the run flats there) but the wind and especially the engine noise was apparent. The 1.8T engine in the Audi was so much smoother. It is a pity the A4 1.8T is a FWD. If they offered the 1.8T with Quattro I would have gone with the A4.
The rear doors on the F30 were also noticeably lighter and did not close with a firm thud that my old E90 320i did. IMHO the entire fit an finish of the F30 is a disappointment. The *only* improvement was the engine (over the N46 in the 320i) and the iDrive. For 328i I think the old N52 engines were better. I'm not too optimistic about the reliability of forced-induction engine and the type of service intervals we are recommended by BMW given the historical sludge problems when BMW said it was OK to do an oil change every 25,000km on the E90s.
If you have read another thread where I gave my feedback during the initial launch of the F30, you will know why I went for the F10 instead. If given a choice and not for the completely f**ked up prices of the second hand market right now I will gladly buy an E90 323i or 325i instead.
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tortoise
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Re: F30 Teething Problems
One does have expectations with certain makes and models. Do u expect a Mercedes to have poor sound insulation as well?
It boils down to the branding of cos. No one will expect a Honda FD2R to be quiet, likewise a Evo or GTR. But if an Audi or Bimmer gonna be poor on insulation unless otherwise stated, thats a big hoo haa.
arowana1;846060 said:
One does have expectations with certain makes and models. Do u expect a Mercedes to have poor sound insulation as well?
It boils down to the branding of cos. No one will expect a Honda FD2R to be quiet, likewise a Evo or GTR. But if an Audi or Bimmer gonna be poor on insulation unless otherwise stated, thats a big hoo haa.
