Infamous jerk before stop

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canuck78;923627 said:
Should be common throughout, unless those bro that go against PML advice to change ATF at every 40-60k, against the official BMW stand that the ATF is a lifetime fluid and do not need replacing.

Btw BMW lifetime refers to 100k miles, so around 160k! In our tropical stop and go city traffic, the AT wears faster and most would starts acting up ar 100k km.

Any bros still using their e90 and have done ATF change can comment if their ride has this jerk?



My GB dead completely at 111k. Valve body and solenoid was exchanged.
Now mileage 136k, gear changed is very smooth and responsive. Will be doing a ATF changed when reach 150k.
 
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lim_ck;923941 said:
sure. just make sure you understand the basics first from the readme files. not sure what you managed to find but most of the readme files are very brief so it takes actualy usage to get to know what is going on.

This is a project which I intend to embark on... if I can find the time hopefully.... I've not even loaded the software yet nor started reading the guides I downloaded :(
 
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Rem to change your ATF when it hits 40k

I am holding out till my gearbox kaput then I go overhaul

redline15;923905 said:
Just an update. I had my valvebody replaced (together with the solenoids which is part of the valvebody) and the jerks stop :)

As what one bro mentioned, resetting the adaptation may work for a while but its only a temporary solution if the solenoids are indeed worn out, especially in our kind of traffic conditions. Since I was planning on keeping the car until its ROD date (not Rod from R2D hor), so I decided to have the valvebody replaced.

Now no more anticipating the jerk before stop :)
 
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Mine already 125k but I changed the ATF once before. Don't know if can last till the theoretical lifetime of the gearbox unit which is 100k miles or 160k km.

redline15;923919 said:
Bro, my mileage is 110 but pre-owned so donno when the problem started. Anyway, as canuck78 suggested, if you don't wish to spend too much, just try resetting the EGS first. Otherwise, you may wish to replace the valvebody.

Cheers :)
 
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Real sweet driving with a creamy smooth gearbox! ;)

TohTo;924098 said:
My GB dead completely at 111k. Valve body and solenoid was exchanged.
Now mileage 136k, gear changed is very smooth and responsive. Will be doing a ATF changed when reach 150k.
 
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Will the jerk worsen the gearbox condition if ignore and dun repair it?
 
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Cochran;925766 said:
Will the jerk worsen the gearbox condition if ignore and dun repair it?

That's indeed a good question. Mine isn't so annoying that I can't live without. Plus only a certain occasions I get it.
 
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The bmw lifetime thingy is the warranty ah? every bmw have or what ah? i got my 08 second hand so i dunno if it is under warranty. mileage 72k only.
 
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Well for me to overcome the jerk, I manually downshift when coming to a halt.
Anyway driving in manual mode is more fun isnt it ? hehe..

BTW it appears the jerk only occurs to the 05/06 batch. The 07/08 seems to be using a different GB. Acceleration is smoother but doesnt feel so torquey.

I had a used 07 courtesy E90 car for almost a mth while they do up my car under PPSL warranty.

The GB had the same feel as 07 E93, smooth dont feel fast until you check the rear view mirror when moving off from a traffic light.... hehe...

The 06 E90 feels a lot more torquey and accelerates with a very aggressive charge. I guess they changed the ratios... I am not sure... Anyone experience the same ?
 
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INPA not easy to install.... Anyway, what do you use to read and reset the adaptations?

lim_ck;923945 said:
check your comm port settings and that the ediabas.ini file has been set up correctly. i would suggest to do a reinstall as it's usually faster and easier than troubleshooting. BTW, there are a few versions of INPA floating around and some do not have the correct files for our cars so it really is to find whatever you can and then try to update the software.
I have set up DIS V57 and INPA to do diagnostics for my car. but some modules can't be read as the software version is wrong for my E90LCI. using INPA, I'm able to check and read some errors (didn't bother to clear them since car still under warranty, let PML sort out the errors), can access the engine module but can't read my transmission module. i ended up using another software to read and reset the adaptations.
 
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jenvid;926196 said:
Well for me to overcome the jerk, I manually downshift when coming to a halt.
Anyway driving in manual mode is more fun isnt it ? hehe..

BTW it appears the jerk only occurs to the 05/06 batch. The 07/08 seems to be using a different GB. Acceleration is smoother but doesnt feel so torquey.

I had a used 07 courtesy E90 car for almost a mth while they do up my car under PPSL warranty.

The GB had the same feel as 07 E93, smooth dont feel fast until you check the rear view mirror when moving off from a traffic light.... hehe...

The 06 E90 feels a lot more torquey and accelerates with a very aggressive charge. I guess they changed the ratios... I am not sure... Anyone experience the same ?

Might be 2 different transmissions. Earlier E90 uses ZF ones whereas the later ones uses GM ones.
 
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lkm;926209 said:
INPA not easy to install.... Anyway, what do you use to read and reset the adaptations?

INPA is quite ok to install. Usual problems is caused by OBD settings for comm port and the ediabas.ini file not configured properly.
I used Tool32. Can find it inside e ediabas/bin folder. But you need to know what .prg file to load.
 
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Mmmm...

I have been driving like a "pussy" for the past 2-3 days..... Noted the jerk happen much less often when on 'pussy' mode. ha....

will change driving mode and see if the jerk will happen everytime i stop or not..........
 
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Any one here drives the car in the manual mode all the time? I have up sized the wheels to 19" and driving in D mode really sucks. On one hand the car is more responsive but I'm worried that the transmission may just call it quits sooner. I've just done a transmission change at 48k km. O and one word of advice from the the workshop; do a complete flush and not the usual empty and refill. I got two bottles of the transmission fluid instead of only one.
 
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im on 19''.. drive the car in M occasionally.. why will the transmission kaput if constantly in manual mode?
I guess the transmission surely kaput sooner or later. Might as well make the best out of it and whack it hard. each transmission should last 110-150k thereabouts? u whack it hard and change it at 100+, last till scrap!
 
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Hmm, to be honest, I have been a "victim" of the infamous valvebody going kaput on my dad's previous E60. The mileage was approximately 80K km but the ATF was never replaced. The valve body was subsequently changed by the now defunct Khang's Transmission and we have sold the car away as the car was basically constantly "lighted" up like a Christmas tree with all the error signals popping up.

Well, I am just worried that the solenoids will be heated up more easily by driving the car in the manual mode and this may lead to premature wear la. But what I do is to change gears only from 2K rpm onwards and I try not to upshift and downshift too much. I used to change the manual transmission fluid at each servicing session for my Type R and well, I think I will change the ATF for the 323i at every 20-30K as a preventive measure. Wonder if this is the usual practice here?
 
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that's overkill la

every 40k - great
every 60k - nice (next 120k, itchy to change car)
every 80k - alright (next 160k, 99% change car liao)
every 100k - must

I will change the ATF for the 323i at every 20-30K as a preventive measure. Wonder if this is the usual practice here?
 
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Yeah.... the workshops seem to recommend 40k, similar to jap cars. I may go for 60k. Anyway, I've just changed my ATF so assuming I drive 20k a year, the next ATF change will be 3 years later. By then, the car is 9 yo and maybe its time to change another ride :)
 
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TohTo;924098 said:
My GB dead completely at 111k. Valve body and solenoid was exchanged.
Now mileage 136k, gear changed is very smooth and responsive. Will be doing a ATF changed when reach 150k.

So what was the damage to the wallet for the valve body and solenoid replacements? Any warranty?

Cheers.
DH
 

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