Members Alert!! Fraud cases in forum

[Sprawler]

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Epic fail!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

When he found out that i knew he was cheating, he begged me to speak to his dad as well. Duno for f*ck.

 

[milk15]

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When he found out that i knew he was cheating, he begged me to speak to his dad as well. Duno for f*ck.

What has it got to do with his dad??? Even if the dad willing to settle for the son.... i think his dad should call you instead...
btw... how old is he????

 

[detach8]

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btw... how old is he????

I was just about to ask.. please sexpose people like these. No mercy one. MW... please advise legal or not. I got a lot of old parts, can I donate to him?

 

[Red_Bean_Bun]

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Sorry to hear about your encounter ..... Hope things work out. I think it's going to be a civil case though.

What do you plan to do with the exhaust ?

I think there are bros out there that should be keen in the Eisennmann Race so maybe it will turn out ok ?

To add on to bro Sprawler with my encounter's with XP, I saw XP's posting on his Eisenmman Exhaust (LTA approved). I am interested so i enquire with him. He wanted to sell me at $3300 includes installation but i think that price topup a few hundreds, i will buy a brand new one includes installation and approval for me.

He said $2300 final price includes installation. I said give me 1 day to think about it. But shortly. he text me asking me to help him to keep his exhaust, he needs help urgently cos his mother very particular about cleaniness and he's very particualar about car. He is moving house and he is selling car and needs to pass the car to agent so no place to put his exhaust as it was dekitted. I was too straightforward in agreeing to help him when he said until so ke lian. We met up, he shifted his quad exhaust to my boot. After which, he said can i pass him the $2300 cos he ususlly don't do business like that. He scared i take his exhaust and run away. He assured me that it is confirmed sport and he installed it not more than 4 months. And if everything i installed already i dont like, he will refund me every dollar and he said himself very steady one. That was in the evening around 5 plus pm. Anyway, we arranged to meet at FK to install the exhaust and he will pay for the installation of $120 cos $2300 includes installation.

Next day came and i was at FK. He text me he had last minute thing to attend to and cannot come and will transfer me the $120 installation fee. What else can i say besides LPPL. Exhaust installed and the sound was really loud. I had doubts as I had Eisenmman Sports on my previous E92 and the sound was not loud I felt. My thought is F10 523i using Eisenmman Sports also not that loud and how can my 528i sounds louder than 523i. Anyway, I drove back to office to check with all my steady office khakis as they are all bimmers fans too. They said confirm race. I agreed with them in probably i was cheated into buying a race. At night, I drove to meet my another groups of khakis. They also said high chance Race.

I called XP and verified with him. He told me it is confirmed Sports lah and he will forward me the receipt first and the cert later cos he lost the certs. I received the receipt and it stated RACE. I called him again and ask him if i should believe his words or the receipt. He said C motorsports guy write wrongly and he will get them to change. A few days later, indeed he emailed me a copy of receipt changed to Sports. I had doubts so I called C motorsports also. Z told me he cannot remember but it should be a sports.

Now i really have doubts on who is the angel and who is devil. In between XP ask me not to worry so much, ask me go LTA do up the approval first. He said he will meet me together to do up. 3 times i go LTA, he never turned up, i sms him he never reply. hours later he returned call say sory to me for all the birds stories i felt.

I dulan and i finally do not believe him anymore and i emailed Unicorn and the serial numbers on the exhaust is RACE and not sports cos its not inside his lists of serial number that is spproved one. I was kinda already sianz and tired and not surprised that its a RACE anymore. I ask him for refund because LTA dealt me a final blow on the 3rd meeting that XP car did not even applied for approval before. Starightaway i was thinking i was cheated, His exhaust is not approval and how can mine be approval when he sold me his.

I text him to ask for all refunds and the installation fee of $120. $120 he also never transfer me all the while and tell me he forgot and sorry. Anyway, he will pass me cash and he prefers meetup. I say fine and i wait at the place to meet but he never turned up.

I called him and he said he will ask his father to transfer me and ask me to wait and he even wataspp me the screenshot of the internet banking to me and ask me to check. I checked don't have and i call him again. He never clicked submit obviously.

Since then , he disappear. I have filed a police report and IO is doing the investigation. I pi Jia LOBANG already. XP probably knew i made a police report against him if he's reading this thread.

Btw, sorry for lousy english here cos i am typing this post very rush. Rushing out. I know i type in many "COS" and "AS"... Paiseh.

 

[Red_Bean_Bun]

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His real father ? Who knows ......

When he found out that i knew he was cheating, he begged me to speak to his dad as well. Duno for f*ck.

 

[Sprawler]

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What has it got to do with his dad??? Even if the dad willing to settle for the son.... i think his dad should call you instead...
btw... how old is he????

He claims to be 26, but he looks older cause hes in bad shape.

 

[MW]

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Civil case lah. Fradulent Misrepresentation and breach of contract. Damages that can be claimed:

1. Cost of what Buyer actually wanted to buy, including installation and whatever certification required. In short, what buyer and seller agreed upon OR actual work to be done fully borne by Seller

2. Misc costs, such as running around to verify claims like petrol and time spent away from work etc

3. Legal costs if you win. Probably about 65% of what you paid your lawyers.

4. Interests.


For Fraudulent Misrep, one can actually take out a Magistrate's Complaint. Its Quasi-criminal. Victim needs to get his own lawyer to be the Prosecutor and issue charges against the Seller and then if found guilty, will be convicted like any other criminal trials commenced by Public Prosecutor. Punishments can be fine or imprisonment or both, depending on the severity or the Judge's mood or if its a she, whether she PMS that day or not. Caveat to this is No costs automatically recoverable unless court orders so.

The above are for reference purposes only, NOT Legal advice. Anyone who relies on it is your pah sar

 

[C3P0]

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Actually this kind of person very poor thing. Live a life with no dignity (if he realise it that is). Has to hide here hide there. At the end of his journey he won't even know whether his life is real or fake, because it's full of lies and deceit.

But hengster and sprawler will still live well and do well.

Life is fair over long term.

 

[C3P0]

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Civil case lah. Fradulent Misrepresentation and breach of contract. Damages that can be claimed:

1. Cost of what Buyer actually wanted to buy, including installation and whatever certification required. In short, what buyer and seller agreed upon OR actual work to be done fully borne by Seller

2. Misc costs, such as running around to verify claims like petrol and time spent away from work etc

3. Legal costs if you win. Probably about 65% of what you paid your lawyers.

4. Interests.


For Fraudulent Misrep, one can actually take out a Magistrate's Complaint. Its Quasi-criminal. Victim needs to get his own lawyer to be the Prosecutor and issue charges against the Seller and then if found guilty, will be convicted like any other criminal trials commenced by Public Prosecutor. Punishments can be fine or imprisonment or both, depending on the severity or the Judge's mood or if its a she, whether she PMS that day or not. Caveat to this is No costs automatically recoverable unless court orders so.

The above are for reference purposes only, NOT Legal advice. Anyone who relies on it is your pah sar

If a gal is 17 but says she is 18, is that Fradulent Misrepresentation? Jonleeck and pengful ask one.

 

[MW]

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I was just about to ask.. please sexpose people like these. No mercy one. MW... please advise legal or not. I got a lot of old parts, can I donate to him?

In answer to your question, re whether can expose names of those "fraudsters", I will tell you yes...u can relate ur experience in the public sphere but subject to posting Facts only eg:

A adverts his car for sale and says its 1 yr old. You find out from LTA its 10 yr old: FACT
A sends SMS saying DUN WORRY BRO, REALLY 1 Yr old only, LTA System spoil: FACT
A is uncontactable and never answers phone: FACT
Wah lau A run away liao NOT FACT (cos not proven yet)
Therefore A is a cheat: NOT FACT (cos not proven yet)

 

[Red_Bean_Bun]

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If not fact then fraudster can go after TS for defamation ?

In answer to your question, re whether can expose names of those "fraudsters", I will tell you yes...u can relate ur experience in the public sphere but subject to posting Facts only eg:

A adverts his car for sale and says its 1 yr old. You find out from LTA its 10 yr old: FACT
A sends SMS saying DUN WORRY BRO, REALLY 1 Yr old only, LTA System spoil: FACT
A is uncontactable and never answers phone: FACT
Wah lau A run away liao NOT FACT (cos not proven yet)
Therefore A is a cheat: NOT FACT (cos not proven yet)

 

[MW]

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If not fact then fraudster can go after TS for defamation ?

The law relating to the Tort of Defamation is very complicated and thats why those political figures wanna get Queens Counsel to act for them, so I cannot give you an accurate answer. But the short simple answer is yes and no.

Yes only if its blatantly untrue and he can prove it. No if all the non-facts which were a consequence of Facts can be justified to form a whole picture.

 

[MW]

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If a gal is 17 but says she is 18, is that Fradulent Misrepresentation? Jonleeck and pengful ask one.

Yes unless its a crime which carries Strict Liability, like Statutory Rape. No intention (mens rea) needs to be proven, only the act (actus reus) is enough.

I am damn smart

 

[Meek]

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I am damn smart

You went to uni ma. Sure smart.

 

[sherman0888]

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You went to uni ma. Sure smart.

Act Smart.

 

[MW]

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Act Smart.

Acting smart not easy ok. Thats why many people kenna conned cos they thot they smart. Like those who actually reply to SMS telling them they won $1M in some telephone lucky draw.

 

[kenntona]

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I pity MW. He gave free legal advices to help.

Less LIKEs received than the story itself.

 

[Sprawler]

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Acting smart not easy ok. Thats why many people kenna conned cos they thot they smart. Like those who actually reply to SMS telling them they won $1M in some telephone lucky draw.

uhm. I didnt 'think' that i was smart, i just wanted to mod my car. heh.

 

[MW]

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actually post those advice was not to garner LIKES, its coz I have a noble cause as a forummer even tho Fiona Xie wasn't my ex gf.

Actually its cos I kay kiang

 

[MW]

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uhm. I didnt 'think' that i was smart, i just wanted to mod my car. heh.

U replied to the SMS telling u tat u won $1M?

Sucker