6.9mil population in 2030 / PM Lee admits govt lacked foresight

Re: 6.9mil population in 2030 / PM Lee admits govt lacked foresight

angrypenguin;951444 said:
I have no qualms with foreigner as long we are attracting real talent..

One of my prc friend is a oil trader.. He says we are just mass importing.. Why? His neighbor in bukit timah is a farmer, they got rich because state govt buy their land and become billionaires.. They just here to buy house.. What can they contribute But ppl with good skillsets are not given residency faster.. Even he find it strange..

Australia goes by a point systems on immigration.. And it s points are tweak every year depending on e economy requirement .. It is open for criticism.. SG is close... Again suka suka set one..

Not entirely true. Australia is also looking for loaded migrantsl just like Singapore :) Monkey see, monkey do?
 
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PAP is on your side:

MP Lee Bee Wah shocking reply to resident needs | The Real Singapore

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Re: 6.9mil population in 2030 / PM Lee admits govt lacked foresight

Aiya, this kind of so called 'message' cannot be trusted lah. Online media full of sex, lies & videotapes - I mean, deceit & deception.
 
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This type of messages can get sued one..if false.
 
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Agree, would expect LBH to respond to this. Wouldnt expect this type of response to come out from any MP, especially when every move is being scrutinised....
 
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if its real, then she orh bee good hope she kenna sacked..

But if its fake, then I hope the person who did it go to jail and get raped.

Its one thing to dislike govt policies or PAP Elitism but its quite another to create lies to generate unnecessary hatred
 
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kenntona;951478 said:
He is planning for 2030, but not seeing that to materialise.....Remain PM after 70? 'I hope not'
Remain PM after 70? 'I hope not'


And just as Mr Goh had started scouring for PM No. 3 even before he took over, Mr Lee Hsien Loong too was looking out for his successor when he took office in 2004.

Barely two weeks after becoming prime minister, he declared in his maiden National Day Rally speech that one of his chief tasks was to launch an early search for Singapore's fourth-generation leader.

Since last year's general election, several new faces have moved to the Frontbench within the year and they have been described as being part of the fourth-generation leadership.

They include Education Minister Heng Swee Keat, Acting Community, Youth and Sports Minister Chan Chun Sing, Acting Manpower Minister Tan Chuan-Jin and Senior Minister of State for Education, and Information, Communications and the Arts Lawrence Wong.


chinlian@sph.com.sg

i think if we are really looking at this batch of new faces for our 4th generation leadership and PM, seow leow..

better take darth vader's group migration suggestion seriously, who wanna go? kee chiu! i volunteer to be recce party..
 
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next PM will be tharman the indian guy, seen him up close once, very smart and charismatic.
 
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please..... no Chan Chun Sing as PM ...
 
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jaskin;951608 said:
please..... no Chan Chun Sing as PM ...

Dun speak too soon..........
 
Re: 6.9mil population in 2030 / PM Lee admits govt lacked foresight

on a serious note as a singaporean, my future is here. my children's future is here. i am not anti pap or anti government. in fact i'm very appreciative of what the government has done for sg. we live in a safe and comfortable environment.

however the system that we treasure and that has worked in the past is starting to breakdown and we need to look not for accountability but for transparency and solutions. meritocracy has morphed into an elitist system. policies crafted by our scholars are deemed to be too perfect to fail hence the reluctance to admit that things have gone wrong.

i know full well that the opposition will not provide (at this juncture) a credible alternative cabinet. yet when they win an election i'm ecstatic. i think it boils down to a burning desire for the government to hear the voices and to connect with the people on the ground. acknowledge that there are problems and take a consultative approach in crafting policies that shape our future. so far, everything that has been said or done borders on being patronizing.
 
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Doodles;951618 said:
on a serious note as a singaporean, my future is here. my children's future is here. i am not anti pap or anti government. in fact i'm very appreciative of what the government has done for sg. we live in a safe and comfortable environment.

however the system that we treasure and that has worked in the past is starting to breakdown and we need to look not for accountability but for transparency and solutions. meritocracy has morphed into an elitist system. policies crafted by our scholars are deemed to be too perfect to fail hence the reluctance to admit that things have gone wrong.

i know full well that the opposition will not provide (at this juncture) a credible alternative cabinet. yet when they win an election i'm ecstatic. i think it boils down to a burning desire for the government to hear the voices and to connect with the people on the ground. acknowledge that there are problems and take a consultative approach in crafting policies that shape our future. so far, everything that has been said or done borders on being patronizing.

Hear hear.

On an equally sombre timbre, I worry for our children - not merely for their future, but of their attitude & approach to that future of theirs. It's a brave new world, and yes, many of the old methods that brought Singapore to where she is today can no longer be applied, but the principles & the essence of those methods must remain true & infallible.

Hard work (and not necessarily for a fair wage), meritocracy (not mere academics) and a never-say-die ability to take the best punches and body blows that life has to offer, square on the chin & still be standing thereafter. Singapore was built on the backs of those who did all that and more (and truth be told, on the principles of a good, clean government that - at that time - did not overpay itself, did not surround itself with scholars-in-ivory-towers and certainly did not layer itself with a bunch of subservient yes-men all listening to Gold 90.5FM).

Yet, the generation (who are now of voting age, or will be coming into voting age) I see are now - with, I'm sure a few exceptions - mostly self-centred, loud-mouthed, ego-centric, molly-coddled pampered brats, whose only opinion that matters is his or her own.

This is a dangerous trend - and to a large extent, both the parents & the government of the day have to bear equal responsibility. "Stop at 2", ever rising costs of living, toddler care that costs $700/month per child, HDBs that cost more than a bungalow in some other countries - and many other these policies (or the consequences emanating from such) have created a citizenry that fear to reproduce in adequate numbers that will sustain the population.

So, the single child that does come into being is a precious, fragile commodity, to be lovingly showered and overly spoiled. And that same child grows up not knowing hardship and carries with him this seriously misplaced sense of self-entitlement. They think the government, their MP, the workplace, the world owes them a living.

And so, I worry for that same self-serving child - because, when it's time for him to cast his vote, I worry that his vote will be one that is bought over by the influence of the new media to which he subscribes; or one that is cast in anger, because some "foreign talent" who's willing to work harder, for less, has taken over his job.

I fear that in the future, that child will cast his vote not based on the question of how his vote can help shape a better Singapore, but rather, what's in it for him. And with 7 million people squeezed into 710 square km, should every child asks that latter question before his vote is cast, then that's a very scary thought indeed.

The only consolation I can see is that, by then, I'd probably be dead.
 
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angrypenguin;951672 said:
My ex father in law is that group.. rich ppl... But it is not that easy.. They still run checks and review the contributions.. It took him 8 years to get citizenship (first 5 years is always pr)

Aiya, wasted... why ex-father in law? :lol2: just kidding lah.
 
6.9mil population in 2030 / PM Lee admits govt lacked foresight

Bo bian.. I come from middle class ma cannot "join them or adapt" so i become ex Loh...
 
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i m actually very worried about 2016, what happens when the PAP govt falls, they have control of everything n all the top guys are there for them. The govt will collapse. Temasek n all affiliated companies are under their control. Look at the problems faced in a simple handover of a town council. The MPs n ministers are paid millions n can migrate with ease. We will be left to pick up the shit.
 
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diablo_728;951687 said:
i m actually very worried about 2016, what happens when the PAP govt falls, they have control of everything n all the top guys are there for them. The govt will collapse. Temasek n all affiliated companies are under their control. Look at the problems faced in a simple handover of a town council. The MPs n ministers are paid millions n can migrate with ease. We will be left to pick up the shit.
Alternative is a revolution, can they escape?
Well, after or before picking up the shit, the new SG government should be able to get them for the treason if such huge 'money eating' scam is true... I didn't say it is not true :lol: :lol: oops, did I just say it is true? :thinking:
 
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You big fan of the too big to fail theory .... ?

diablo_728;951687 said:
i m actually very worried about 2016, what happens when the PAP govt falls, they have control of everything n all the top guys are there for them. The govt will collapse. Temasek n all affiliated companies are under their control. Look at the problems faced in a simple handover of a town council. The MPs n ministers are paid millions n can migrate with ease. We will be left to pick up the shit.
 

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