Munich Automobile => AD responsibility
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Re: Munich Automobile => AD responsibility
u wanna save money...n u still expect AD to service u....like saying u go pay 40 bux kokokuay but expect 150 bux look and service.
i marry viet chick as mistress doesnt mean my son got to call mommy.
import boxter save 70k n expect SA to honour...singaporeans really too much.
u wanna save money...n u still expect AD to service u....like saying u go pay 40 bux kokokuay but expect 150 bux look and service.
i marry viet chick as mistress doesnt mean my son got to call mommy.
import boxter save 70k n expect SA to honour...singaporeans really too much.
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Re: Munich Automobile => AD responsibility
How about situations whereby you are ready to pay the adoption fee BUT it is still not guaranteed that if by doing so the problem in your car will be rectified?
Here's the funny thing, I went to PML. They didn't ask for an adoption fee. Told me, no worries just buy these few items and your problem will be resolved! I said ok, so I paid about $2.5k for parts. In the end, it didn't work. Best part is, sorry these items are special indent so no refund.
So in this case what would you have done? Pay the adoption fee and hope for the best?
How about situations whereby you are ready to pay the adoption fee BUT it is still not guaranteed that if by doing so the problem in your car will be rectified?
Here's the funny thing, I went to PML. They didn't ask for an adoption fee. Told me, no worries just buy these few items and your problem will be resolved! I said ok, so I paid about $2.5k for parts. In the end, it didn't work. Best part is, sorry these items are special indent so no refund.
So in this case what would you have done? Pay the adoption fee and hope for the best?
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Re: Munich Automobile => AD responsibility
I think in the case of PML, even AD car , Adoption or no Adoption, it's gonna be the same.
I actually am quite surprised to see why Buyers of PI cars would actually want to send their cars back there. It's like adding further problems unnecessarily.
rex7_vtec;673407 said:
I think in the case of PML, even AD car , Adoption or no Adoption, it's gonna be the same.
I actually am quite surprised to see why Buyers of PI cars would actually want to send their cars back there. It's like adding further problems unnecessarily.
Re: Munich Automobile => AD responsibility
Yes I am aware of certain issues that may arise. But not expecting an issue that even reputable aftermarket workshops could not rectify. To make it worse, it was an issue that so far I have only heard of 1 such case in Singapore and thats mine. Even BMW AG and BMW UK were abit taken aback by this issue.
kenntona;673412 said:
Yes I am aware of certain issues that may arise. But not expecting an issue that even reputable aftermarket workshops could not rectify. To make it worse, it was an issue that so far I have only heard of 1 such case in Singapore and thats mine. Even BMW AG and BMW UK were abit taken aback by this issue.
Re: Munich Automobile => AD responsibility
Only when issues that are unresolved outside do people actually go back to AD. Besides i'm sure some owners would justify the $100k in savings for say an M3 to go PI and then paying adoption of $30k.
I've always been an AD fan (some will say I'm stupid) but on some cases I think going PI will have been a better route as you qould attest as well that sometimes AD's attitude and knowledge is absolute bollocks.
satinGHOST|r!der;673421 said:
Only when issues that are unresolved outside do people actually go back to AD. Besides i'm sure some owners would justify the $100k in savings for say an M3 to go PI and then paying adoption of $30k.
I've always been an AD fan (some will say I'm stupid) but on some cases I think going PI will have been a better route as you qould attest as well that sometimes AD's attitude and knowledge is absolute bollocks.
Re: Munich Automobile => AD responsibility
the point is buyers all went in with their eyes opened.
you know you gonna pay adoption fee. you know you will never be priority. yet u went ahead..n then kpkb.
You know the adoption fees, you go ahead and buy PI/UI and dun wanna pay the fee and expect same service as AD cars, you are an ass.
or
You dunno the arrangement and go ahead, you are dumb.
the point is buyers all went in with their eyes opened.
you know you gonna pay adoption fee. you know you will never be priority. yet u went ahead..n then kpkb.
You know the adoption fees, you go ahead and buy PI/UI and dun wanna pay the fee and expect same service as AD cars, you are an ass.
or
You dunno the arrangement and go ahead, you are dumb.
Re: Munich Automobile => AD responsibility
If they cannot honour their warranty and have to refer you to MA, obviously they have to compensate for the MA's charges.......
The workshop servicing your UI/PI car, how are they gonna compensate you in cases like these? Obviously your car's warranty terms is with them via BMW Asia, not with MA.rex7_vtec said:
If they cannot honour their warranty and have to refer you to MA, obviously they have to compensate for the MA's charges.......
Re: Munich Automobile => AD responsibility
100k in savings easily outweigh any form of loyalty anyone would have towards the AD. Even I would go the PI route. Ditto on AD's attitide and knowledge. Leaves a lot to be desired. I think most who go PI generally understand the risks and implications. And I know most who have been very happy so far. Sometimes if AD is so incompetent, I wonder what kind of miracle an adoption fee would do really. I think it does nothing but just the fact you get more smiles. And more problems of course. Ultimate Package.
rex7_vtec;673431 said:
100k in savings easily outweigh any form of loyalty anyone would have towards the AD. Even I would go the PI route. Ditto on AD's attitide and knowledge. Leaves a lot to be desired. I think most who go PI generally understand the risks and implications. And I know most who have been very happy so far. Sometimes if AD is so incompetent, I wonder what kind of miracle an adoption fee would do really. I think it does nothing but just the fact you get more smiles. And more problems of course. Ultimate Package.
Re: Munich Automobile => AD responsibility
Maybe we can have some clarity here.
Scenario: PI car got manufacture defect. Engine died w no mods done at all. Can we go to PML/MA for repair without paying adoption fee? Are ADs obliged to repair since they represent the brand here? Can we take legal action if ADs refuse? Is it in their right to refuse a BMW car? (I know all the ding dong rationale about AD having to do this for higher running overheads etc). This would require just be a Yes or No answer.
I am asking this for a simple reason: Is there a loophole in our current AD/PI system? We as customers should not really be bothered about the complex relationship btw BMW Asia/PML/MA or even speculate about this rubbish. If a product is defective due to manufacture fault, then manufacturer should be obliged to repair regardless.
I feel some bros getting very personal with some of the comments posted here. AD/PI car buyers or not....we should all respect each other's view.
Maybe we can have some clarity here.
Scenario: PI car got manufacture defect. Engine died w no mods done at all. Can we go to PML/MA for repair without paying adoption fee? Are ADs obliged to repair since they represent the brand here? Can we take legal action if ADs refuse? Is it in their right to refuse a BMW car? (I know all the ding dong rationale about AD having to do this for higher running overheads etc). This would require just be a Yes or No answer.
I am asking this for a simple reason: Is there a loophole in our current AD/PI system? We as customers should not really be bothered about the complex relationship btw BMW Asia/PML/MA or even speculate about this rubbish. If a product is defective due to manufacture fault, then manufacturer should be obliged to repair regardless.
I feel some bros getting very personal with some of the comments posted here. AD/PI car buyers or not....we should all respect each other's view.
