Re: Audi R8 Testing
Allan, thanks for sharing your view. You make some good points regarding responsibility, but I have to disagree with some of what you've said, just like I disagree with some of what Caysman has said.
It's definitely not about background. Anyone who has known me from way back in the day will know I've done the same to karters, all the way up to sportscar owners. At work, on vacation, online, offline, to strangers, acquaintences, friends, young, old, male, female. Arising from both automotive and non-automotive talk.
It doesn't happen very often. Most times there is healthy discussion on the points and sometimes view change, sometimes agreement to disagree. Last personal OT type argument was years ago. The only common spark across the personal OT stuff is vulgar, illogical, or disrespectful attempted justification of thoughtless words or action, plain lies, intentional misrepresentation of fact, false projection of self, lack of ethic, attempted shirking of responsibility of what is on record, or baseless attacks on the character of my friends or I. It's principle.
There are lots of people that do and say things that I don't agree with, but that's their choice. What they're ]not doing though, when asked to discuss their reasoning, go OT and come back telling you in all too easy vague terms that you operate outside the real world (because as god they know what exactly it is), offer to teach you about life (having lived very long drawing on a large stock of wide ranging experience), or claim to know everything about your allegedly horrible past, current state, and future. It's extremely lofty, illogical, cowardly, and anyone can react like that in any situation, but it's a zero sharing zero progression (useless) reaction.
Here's how things could be kept simple...
A: That car is a pile.
B: What? Why? It's got great reviews.
A: But it looks monkey butt
B: Come on that's not a nice way of putting things, besides how can a mechanical object look like an organic body part?
A: That's just how I feel, and looks are extremely important. You don't have to agree.
B: Gee, ok.
The end.
Or, people are free to come back with an antagonistic reply that sparks the OT argument. A response like..
A: I never said it looks like monkey butt. All I said that it's look doesn't flow like a supercar should. Aiyah but you completely miss my point because you just don't understand, you have no insight, Can't blame you, it's ok. After all you don't operate in the real world, little kid. Come back and talk to me when you've learnt something about life.
Here a simple difference in opinion now involves subjective definitions of life and the real world, and offensive name calling - and the downward spiral begins.
