F10 @ ppml
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Re: F10 @ ppml
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net net... you might have enjoyed 20K plus of over trades then.... so it is not too bad... and already better than last year end promos
Centurion9990;648002 said:Nah... not feeling pain... PML gave me a market rate for my E90... Checked with sgcarmart
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net net... you might have enjoyed 20K plus of over trades then.... so it is not too bad... and already better than last year end promos
Re: F10 @ ppml
agree.... changes in omv value ....hides the additional value brought to the customers...
had currency stays constant.... now the 318i/320i would have cost more.....with much higher specs...
318i specs right now... are better than 320i XL spec years back ... with sunroof, servotronic... folding mirrors...memory seats...
so can't really compare.
ktnpl;648064 said:
agree.... changes in omv value ....hides the additional value brought to the customers...
had currency stays constant.... now the 318i/320i would have cost more.....with much higher specs...
318i specs right now... are better than 320i XL spec years back ... with sunroof, servotronic... folding mirrors...memory seats...
so can't really compare.
detach8
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I tried spec'ing the current 320i on BMW UK and the final price was £36,310 or approx S$65,196.
Given the "cost" price is S$39K the general conclusion here is that the profit is approx S$25K before tax and shipping. I would say that's $203K - $30K = $173K thereabout is a fair price for an E90 320i here after adding all the atrocious taxes.
I tried spec'ing the current 320i on BMW UK and the final price was £36,310 or approx S$65,196.
Given the "cost" price is S$39K the general conclusion here is that the profit is approx S$25K before tax and shipping. I would say that's $203K - $30K = $173K thereabout is a fair price for an E90 320i here after adding all the atrocious taxes.
redhotdevil
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Ah..! Y the earlier version of highline dun come wif pedal shift and dynamic drive contrl.. -_-
Blackstream;647877 said:
Ah..! Y the earlier version of highline dun come wif pedal shift and dynamic drive contrl.. -_-
Re: F10 @ ppml
http://www.onemotoring.com.sg/publi...ost.MainPar.0047.File.tmp/Car_Cost_Update.pdf
The base cost of a F10 highline is about 163k. I think PML maintains a margin of some 70-80k and this appears to be consistently adhered to. So overtrade or outright discount to selling price over list price are plays on psychology. Think we can do all the permutations and still arrive at the same profit margins.
http://www.onemotoring.com.sg/publi...ost.MainPar.0047.File.tmp/Car_Cost_Update.pdf
The base cost of a F10 highline is about 163k. I think PML maintains a margin of some 70-80k and this appears to be consistently adhered to. So overtrade or outright discount to selling price over list price are plays on psychology. Think we can do all the permutations and still arrive at the same profit margins.
detach8
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in business there's always discounts and other things that affect the import price. We can't be sure how PML dealt with their exporters/BMW AG. OMV is just one part of the equation. What is the car REALLY worth?
Why is somebody paying you $xxx a month. Do you have an OMV? Maybe your Masters Degree is the "OMV", but there's more to it... I'm sure you know what I mean.
in business there's always discounts and other things that affect the import price. We can't be sure how PML dealt with their exporters/BMW AG. OMV is just one part of the equation. What is the car REALLY worth?
Why is somebody paying you $xxx a month. Do you have an OMV? Maybe your Masters Degree is the "OMV", but there's more to it... I'm sure you know what I mean.
detach8
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I just configured something similar to the 523i Highline via BMW UK and it was £35K before tax or approx SGD $70K.
The OMV is surely under. But think about it, if the OMV was S$60K instead of S$45K, the price of the car would have been even higher.
Think about it... they have a building, showroom, salesman, service center and free coffee and cakes. These are all business expenses. If you really want it cheap, go PI or self import. But you have your risks.
I just configured something similar to the 523i Highline via BMW UK and it was £35K before tax or approx SGD $70K.
The OMV is surely under. But think about it, if the OMV was S$60K instead of S$45K, the price of the car would have been even higher.
Think about it... they have a building, showroom, salesman, service center and free coffee and cakes. These are all business expenses. If you really want it cheap, go PI or self import. But you have your risks.
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Re: F10 @ ppml
That's was what I did when I decided to buy my current e90 LCI. I looked at the used car prices in sgcarmart, then made a trip down to PML, told them, cut the chase, what's the final net price of the car? And guess what, it's cheaper than the used car. I bought it for $120K+ while the listed price was $150K+
Only the Japanese and koreans car prices are quite close to what they publish as their profit margin is quite thin and thus not much buffer to play with.
Whatever inflated prices that we are looking now is because of the damn paper COE which I feel bloody disgusted abt it, notwithstanding the low OMV of F10.
Cheers!
detach8;648071 said:
That's was what I did when I decided to buy my current e90 LCI. I looked at the used car prices in sgcarmart, then made a trip down to PML, told them, cut the chase, what's the final net price of the car? And guess what, it's cheaper than the used car. I bought it for $120K+ while the listed price was $150K+
Only the Japanese and koreans car prices are quite close to what they publish as their profit margin is quite thin and thus not much buffer to play with.
Whatever inflated prices that we are looking now is because of the damn paper COE which I feel bloody disgusted abt it, notwithstanding the low OMV of F10.
Cheers!
Centurion9990
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The price is about there. Got my previous E90 for $120k too, from $150k listed price. COE 14k. The F thing is the OMV is almost the same as my F10 now
asked my agent he say BMW AG set the value against the low euros, PML cannot do anything... Load of craps la 
The price is about there. Got my previous E90 for $120k too, from $150k listed price. COE 14k. The F thing is the OMV is almost the same as my F10 now
asked my agent he say BMW AG set the value against the low euros, PML cannot do anything... Load of craps la flyboy;648155 said:
VincentEmmanuel
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Agree OMV is just part of the equation when you are buying the car but just imagine what the used car salesman will say to you when you are selling it away....
detach8;648146 said:
Agree OMV is just part of the equation when you are buying the car but just imagine what the used car salesman will say to you when you are selling it away....
detach8
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Re: F10 @ ppml
IMHO used car dealers are the worst of the lot. That's because they're dealing in a high risk business themselves.
Used cars are DEPRECIATING assets. They may or may not sell. They take up lots of storage space. They may also be accident cars, or cars with traffic offenses in Malaysia, or have serious mechanical problems after the previous owner goofed up trying to mod their car.
In any case, they will tell you all sorts of shit to sell the car and also tell you more shit to buy your car at a price that reduces their risk, i.e. buy at "paper value" or more appropriately, near "tax refund" amount.
I got my old E90 used. It had an accident, probably not too major. STA inspection turns out to be a "B". How I knew was because I checked with PML *after* I bought the car. I mean, what can I do. Just suck it and drive.
IMHO used car dealers are the worst of the lot. That's because they're dealing in a high risk business themselves.
Used cars are DEPRECIATING assets. They may or may not sell. They take up lots of storage space. They may also be accident cars, or cars with traffic offenses in Malaysia, or have serious mechanical problems after the previous owner goofed up trying to mod their car.
In any case, they will tell you all sorts of shit to sell the car and also tell you more shit to buy your car at a price that reduces their risk, i.e. buy at "paper value" or more appropriately, near "tax refund" amount.
I got my old E90 used. It had an accident, probably not too major. STA inspection turns out to be a "B". How I knew was because I checked with PML *after* I bought the car. I mean, what can I do. Just suck it and drive.
Re: F10 @ ppml
BMW AsIa is the importer of BMW cars & motorcycles in Sg. Both PML and Munich are distributors. So, only BMW Asia can determine the OMV.Centurion9990;648175 said:The price is about there. Got my previous E90 for $120k too, from $150k listed price. COE 14k. The F thing is the OMV is almost the same as my F10 now
BlueSwift
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Wts. Low Euro then BMW Asia dunno how to reduce the prices... :screwedu::screwedu:
Even Apple themselves can drop the Macbook prices here due to weak US$.
Centurion9990;648175 said:The price is about there. Got my previous E90 for $120k too, from $150k listed price. COE 14k. The F thing is the OMV is almost the same as my F10 now
Wts. Low Euro then BMW Asia dunno how to reduce the prices... :screwedu::screwedu:
Even Apple themselves can drop the Macbook prices here due to weak US$.
